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Sirridan
February 16, 2010, 07:14
I hear some say that if you aren't nervous, you aren't deep enough. Well I'm rather deep, and I'm rather nervous.

65th floor with no rpoison, I have esp as a swap and a semi-decent bow, but it's punch is dropping with every floor down.

I get detection from my helm, and I have a few scrolls to help keep me alive, but overall, scared outa my mind.

Should I dive deeper and hope for speed rings or try and gain a few levels? I can't wait for 30 to get intrinsic rfear, it gets annoying having to flee 'cause I can't fight.

Thanks in advance for any advice! Hopefully I won't explode due to something stupid again. Maybe being scared is good, I don't stop paying attention which seems to be fatal to me all the time.

Dump below:


[Angband 3.1.2 Character Dump]

Name Sifwe Self RB CB EB Best
Sex Female Age 119 STR: 18 +1 +5 +2 18/80
Race High-Elf Height 95 INT: 11 +3 -2 +3 15
Class Warrior Weight 177 Wis: 12 -1 -2 +3 12 9
Title Myrmidon Social Role model DEX: 16 +3 +2 +2 18/50
HP 399/399 Maximize Y CON: 18 +1 +2 +2 18/50
SP 0/0 CHR: 15 +5 -1 +0 18/10

Level 29 Armor [25,+84] Saving Throw 68%
Cur Exp 127255 Fight (+15,+13) Stealth Superb
Max Exp 127255 Melee (+25,+16) Fighting Heroic
Adv Exp 150000 Shoot (+33,+8) Shooting Heroic
MaxDepth 3300' (L66) Blows 3/turn Disarming 60%
Game Turns 407055 Shots 2/turn Magic Device 60
Player Turns 42775 Infra 40 ft Perception 1 in 24
Active Turns 41315 Speed 2 Searching 27%
Gold 116698 Burden 145.9 lbs

You are the only child of a Telerin Warrior. You have light grey
eyes, wavy black hair, and a fair complexion.



rAcid:....+.+.+.... rConf:.........+...
rElec:......+.+.... Sound:.............
rFire:......+.+.... Shard:......+......
rCold:..+...+.+.... Nexus:.............
rPois:............. Nethr:.............
rFear:............. Chaos:.............
rLite:............+ Disen:.............
rDark:............. S.Dig:.............
rBlnd:.........+... Feath:.............

Light:............. Aggrv:.............
Regen:............. Stea.:......++.....
ESP:+............ Sear.:.........+...
Invis:.....+...+..+ Infra:............+
FrAct:..........+.. Tunn.:.............
HLife:.......+..... Speed:...........+.
ImpHP:............. Blows:.............
ImpSP:............. Shots:.+...........
Fear:............. Might:.............


[Character Equipment]

a) a Katana (Blessed) (3d5) (+10,+3) (+1)
+1 wisdom.
Blessed by the gods. Grants telepathy.

Combat info:
3 blows/round.
With an additional 7 strength and 0 dex you would get 4 blows
With an additional 2 strength and 2 dex you would get 4 blows
With an additional 0 strength and 4 dex you would get 4 blows
This weapon benefits from one or more off-weapon brands or slays.
Average damage/hit: 45.2 vs. creatures not resistant to cold, and
25.9 vs. others.

b) a Long Bow of Extra Shots (x3) (+18,+8) (+1)
+1 shooting speed.

c) a Ring of Ice [+12]
It brands your melee attacks with frost.
Provides resistance to cold.
Cannot be harmed by cold.

d) a Ring of Dexterity (+2)
+2 dexterity.
Sustains dexterity.

e) an Amulet of Resist Acid
Provides resistance to acid.
Cannot be harmed by acid.

f) The Star of Elendil
Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
Grants the ability to see invisible things.

When activated, it maps the area around you.
Takes 61 to 120 turns to recharge at your current speed.
Your chance of success is 90.9%

Radius 3 light.
g) Metal Scale Mail of Elvenkind [12,+11] (+3 stealth)
+3 stealth.
Provides resistance to acid, lightning, fire, cold, shards.
Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.

h) a Cloak of the Magi [1,+11] (+1)
+1 intelligence, stealth.
Cannot be harmed by acid.
Sustains intelligence.
Sustains your life force.

i) a Small Metal Shield of Resistance [4,+17]
Provides resistance to acid, lightning, fire, cold.
Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.

j) The Iron Helm 'Holhenneth' [5,+10] (+2) (charging)
+2 intelligence, wisdom.
+10% to searching.
Provides resistance to blindness, confusion.
Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
Grants the ability to see invisible things.

When activated, it detects treasure, traps, doors, stairs, and all
creatures nearby.
Takes 67 to 132 turns to recharge at your current speed.
Your chance of success is 92.4%

k) The Set of Leather Gloves 'Cambeleg' (+8,+8) [1,+15] (+2)
+2 strength, constitution.
Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
Prevents paralysis.

l) a Pair of Leather Boots of Speed [2,+5] (+2)
+2 speed.



[Character Quiver]

n) 13 Arrows (1d4) (+0,+0)
Combat info:
Hits targets up to 120 feet away.
Average damage/hit: 32.1.
35% chance of breaking upon contact.

o) 99 Arrows (1d4) (+0,+0)
Combat info:
Hits targets up to 120 feet away.
Average damage/hit: 32.1.
35% chance of breaking upon contact.

p) 25 Mithril Arrows (3d4) {magical}
You do not know the full extent of this item's powers.
Cannot be harmed by acid, fire.

Combat info:
Hits targets up to 120 feet away.
Average damage/hit: 47.4.
35% chance of breaking upon contact.

q) (nothing)
r) (nothing)
s) (nothing)
t) (nothing)
u) (nothing)
v) (nothing)
w) (nothing)


[Character Inventory]

a) 16 Potions of Cure Serious Wounds

b) 2 Potions of Cure Critical Wounds

c) a Potion of Healing

d) 17 Scrolls of Phase Door
e) a Scroll of Teleport Level {!*}
f) a Scroll of Mass Banishment {!*}
g) a Scroll of Satisfy Hunger
h) 20 Scrolls of Identify
i) a Scroll of Recharging
j) a Scroll of Protection from Evil
k) a Scroll of *Destruction* {!*}
l) a Rod of Recall {!!!*}
Cannot be harmed by electricity.

m) a Gold Rod {tried}
You do not know the full extent of this item's powers.

n) a Staff of Starlight (10 charges)

o) 2 Staves of Teleportation (10 charges)

p) a Ring of Damage (+0,+11)
q) a Pair of Steel Shod Boots of Stability [6,+11]
Provides resistance to nexus.
Feather Falling.

r) The Rapier 'Forasgil' (1d6) (+12,+19)
Slays animals.
Branded with frost.
Provides resistance to cold, light.
Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.

Combat info:
4 blows/round.
With an additional 0 strength and 5 dex you would get 5 blows
Average damage/hit: 40.3 vs. animals, 44 vs. creatures not
resistant to cold, and 36.7 vs. others.

Radius 1 light.


[Home Inventory]

a) 33 Potions of Cure Serious Wounds

b) 22 Potions of Cure Critical Wounds

c) 2 Potions of Restore Strength
d) 2 Potions of Restore Dexterity
e) a Potion of Restore Life Levels
f) a Potion of Enlightenment
g) 4 Scrolls of Enchant Weapon To-Hit
h) 2 Scrolls of Remove Curse
i) 4 Rods of Door/Stair Location {!!}
j) 2 Rods of Trap Location {!!}
k) a Ring of Strength (+3)
+3 strength.
Sustains strength.

l) a Ring of Damage (+0,+10)
m) a Ring of Damage (+0,+7)
n) a War Hammer of Westernesse (3d3) (+9,+8) (+2)
+2 strength, dexterity, constitution.
Slays orcs, trolls, giants.
Prevents paralysis. Grants the ability to see invisible things.

Combat info:
4 blows/round.
With an additional 0 strength and 3 dex you would get 5 blows
This weapon benefits from one or more off-weapon brands or slays.
Average damage/hit: 41.9 vs. orcs, 41.9 vs. trolls, 41.9 vs.
giants, 41.9 vs. creatures not resistant to cold, and 29.1 vs.
others.



================================================== ==========
CHAR.
| TURN | DEPTH |LEVEL| EVENT
================================================== ==========
1 0' 1 Began the quest to destroy Morgoth.
5145 100' 1 Killed Fang, Farmer Maggot's dog
5145 100' 2 Reached level 2
5145 100' 3 Reached level 3
5979 100' 4 Reached level 4
16434 250' 5 Reached level 5
16464 250' 6 Reached level 6
16696 250' 7 Reached level 7
22720 400' 8 Reached level 8
29715 450' 9 Reached level 9
29955 450' 10 Reached level 10
41575 600' 11 Reached level 11
45344 600' 12 Reached level 12
52857 600' 13 Reached level 13
57229 600' 13 Killed Brodda, the Easterling
72037 600' 14 Reached level 14
72177 600' 14 Killed Lagduf, the Snaga
87939 600' 15 Reached level 15
92882 650' 14 Killed Wormtongue, Agent of Saruman
115625 800' 15 Killed Smeagol
115722 800' 16 Reached level 16
115733 800' 16 Found The Set of Gauntlets 'Paurhach' (LOST)
130269 800' 17 Reached level 17
141728 850' 18 Reached level 18
143047 850' 18 Killed Mughash the Kobold Lord
147888 900' 18 Killed Nar, the Dwarf
156578 1000' 19 Reached level 19
166209 1000' 20 Reached level 20
177347 1000' 20 Killed Grip, Farmer Maggot's dog
180918 1000' 20 Killed Bolg, Son of Azog
182128 1000' 21 Reached level 21
193137 1000' 21 Killed Ufthak of Cirith Ungol
202427 950' 22 Reached level 22
202769 950' 22 Killed Shagrat, the Orc Captain
205120 0' 22 Killed Farmer Maggot
210850 1000' 22 Killed Gorbag, the Orc Captain
222817 1150' 23 Reached level 23
226294 1150' 23 Found The Set of Leather Gloves 'Cambeleg'
227750 1150' 24 Reached level 24
247708 1250' 25 Reached level 25
303103 1450' 25 Killed Uldor the Accursed
310910 1550' 26 Reached level 26
324802 1600' 26 Killed Sangahyando of Umbar
339247 1600' 27 Reached level 27
347475 1750' 27 Killed Ibun, Son of Mim
353476 1850' 27 Killed Draebor, the Imp
353576 1850' 27 Found The Rapier 'Forasgil'
353629 1850' 27 Found The Phial of Galadriel
359574 1850' 27 Found The Iron Helm 'Holhenneth'
362400 1850' 28 Reached level 28
364568 1850' 28 Killed Golfimbul, the Hill Orc Chief
376258 2050' 28 Killed Angamaite of Umbar
376350 2050' 28 Found The Star of Elendil
376397 2050' 28 Found The Metal Cap of Thengel (LOST)
376844 2050' 29 Reached level 29
376986 2050' 29 Found The Set of Gauntlets 'Pauraegen' (LOST)
386607 2250' 29 Killed Ulfast, Son of Ulfang


[Options]

Maximize effect of race/class bonuses : yes (adult_maximize)
Randomize some of the artifacts (beta) : no (adult_randarts)
Restrict the use of stairs/recall : no (adult_ironman)
Restrict the use of stores/home : no (adult_no_stores)
Restrict creation of artifacts : no (adult_no_artifacts)
Don't stack objects on the floor : no (adult_no_stacking)
Lose artifacts when leaving level : no (adult_no_preserve)
Don't generate connected stairs : no (adult_no_stairs)
Adult: Monsters chase current location : yes (adult_ai_sound)
Adult: Monsters chase recent locations : yes (adult_ai_smell)
Adult: Monsters act smarter in groups : yes (adult_ai_packs)
Adult: Monsters learn from their mistakes : no (adult_ai_learn)
Adult: Monsters exploit players weaknesses : no (adult_ai_cheat)
Adult: Monsters behave more intelligently (broken): no (adult_ai_smart)
Score: Peek into object creation : no (score_peek)
Score: Peek into monster creation : no (score_hear)
Score: Peek into dungeon creation : no (score_room)
Score: Peek into something else : no (score_xtra)
Score: Know complete monster info : no (score_know)
Score: Allow player to avoid death : no (score_live)

Zikke
February 16, 2010, 07:30
The general advice you'll get from this community:


1) If you're at dlvl 65, you might as well be at dlvl 98. Same amount of danger but much better loot and more vaults (if you have TO).

2) Watch out for Drolems since they don't show up on ESP and can 1-shot you with poison breath from the darkness. (There are a few others to watch for, but I don't remember the ones that don't show on ESP.)

buzzkill
February 16, 2010, 17:32
That's crazy, but probably still survivable given your stealth. With just +2 speed, and your missing resists, there a probably a whole bunch of things that can finish you off in a single turn. If you're having fun, keep on going. If just staying alive has become tedious, then it might be time to start looking for up staircases. I'm assuming dis-connected stairs. Dis-connected stairs?

Derakon
February 16, 2010, 20:36
I'd say your biggest problem right now is low HP. Get that CON up. 18/50 is crazy low.

PowerDiver
February 16, 2010, 21:23
Should I dive deeper and hope for speed rings or try and gain a few levels? I can't wait for 30 to get intrinsic rfear, it gets annoying having to flee 'cause I can't fight.

You should be buying every !hero for sale at the temple, and use one any time you get scared and can't simply kill your foe with your bow.

You've gotten too deep to worry about what you have. Keep going down, or else start over from DL 1. You won't survive trying to get to easier levels using upstairs.

You appear to be diving a bit too fast. My current warrior reached CL 30 at DL 52, and I am a certified madman. Oh - you are playing a high-elf which costs a couple CLs, so maybe it's the same ballpark.

You probably need to pick a few more fights, but it takes time to learn which are worth the effort. It is worthwhile to try collect a few wands of ball damage and then use them all up to try to soften up one high value target so you can kill it. Ideally aim from a turn in a corridor so if it breathes you can step out of LOS before you quaff or try to escape.

Sirridan
February 17, 2010, 00:30
You should be buying every !hero for sale at the temple, and use one any time you get scared and can't simply kill your foe with your bow.

You've gotten too deep to worry about what you have. Keep going down, or else start over from DL 1. You won't survive trying to get to easier levels using upstairs.

You appear to be diving a bit too fast. My current warrior reached CL 30 at DL 52, and I am a certified madman. Oh - you are playing a high-elf which costs a couple CLs, so maybe it's the same ballpark.

You probably need to pick a few more fights, but it takes time to learn which are worth the effort. It is worthwhile to try collect a few wands of ball damage and then use them all up to try to soften up one high value target so you can kill it. Ideally aim from a turn in a corridor so if it breathes you can step out of LOS before you quaff or try to escape.

Yeah, I hit dl 77, found another TO which is a blessing. CL 32 now with a *much* better launcher so things die again, I want some more health and speed, but I can pick off non blue/red dragons pretty easy, although I still stay away from greens and MHs. I'm basically looking for stat potions and rpoison right now, my other characters were pushing 800hp way earlier because I was always lucky finding lots of !con and armor, this guy just hasn't been lucky.

Thanks though for your and everyone else's input.

Sirridan
February 17, 2010, 01:36
Tag teamed by two vampire lords because I got greedy. Got slowed and they surrounded me and before I could act they burned off 409 hp (-8 from 401).

Dived too fast. Next char will probably be a ranger and ill stick around dl 30-40 till I have a decentish kit with max con.

Had a blast though, I don't care that I died since I wasn't to well off. I am however still ticked about my last warrior who had all resists covered except chaos, and I could equip switch in disenchant if I needed. No more dumps or advice till I win, so probably won't see any for a while ;-)

Zikke
February 22, 2010, 16:39
Half-Trolls are fun for CON. I just made a Half-Troll priest and he was a beast in melee, but still had infinite heals and 0% fail. :) Won with him