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Sky August 30, 2018 10:31

FCB artifact names are bad and you should feel bad
 
FCB claws the English language <hit>. FCB mauls the English language <hit>.
It was a terrifying hit!
The English language is butchered.

I noticed that player made artifacts have a hard time constructing titles properly. In English, an attribute of typology comes *before* an attribute of ownership; so, for example if Gwarl the Smith makes a leather shield of Elvenkind, that would be the Leather Shield of Elvenkind of Gwarl the Smith, instead it currently is the Leather Shield of Gwarl the Smith ... of Elvenkind.

It gets even more complicated with further attributes, such as the Fancy Teardrop-shaped Red Steel shield of Elvenkind of Gwarl the Smith.

You go. Fix nau.

Least i should unleash The Hounds Of Oxford on you.

Gwarl August 30, 2018 10:42

Those aren't artifacts, they're smithed ego weapons.

Gwarl doesn't play FrogComposband.

Poschengband and it's forks do have a lot of legacy Engrish from Hengband and I think that's wonderful and have no intentions of changing it.

And while you didn't touch on this in your post, despite my and rodent's efforts to expand the lists of possible randart names, really we need a generator to go with them.

Sky August 30, 2018 11:52

So Gwarl the Balrog Weaponsmith isn't yours??
http://angband.oook.cz/ladder-show.php?id=21921

Gwarl August 30, 2018 12:00

Composband.

You know how Zangband isn't angband?

Same deal.

Sky August 30, 2018 13:56

I'll tell you what; i'll edit my post from frogcomposband to composband, and you can edit yours from it's forks to its forks, so we can focus on the issue.
English good. Engrish bad.

Pete Mack August 30, 2018 14:15

I really don't see.why you care so much, one way or the other. A rose by any other name..

wobbly August 30, 2018 14:43

Hengband is grammar of perfection

EpicMan August 30, 2018 15:50

The English language (white 'h'):
This Chaotic Hybrid is found on most dungeon levels and moves quickly, but does not deign to chase intruders.
It can spell to confuse and break its own rules.
It cannot spell 'phonics' phonetically.
It uses Greek & Roman spellings when it feels like it
It can make capital I look like lower-case L to confuse you

English is like 'C' code: It's not always pretty, but it gets the job done.

Derakon August 30, 2018 16:16

English is a thuggish kleptomaniac agglomeration of whatever bits of other languages someone thought might be useful. There are rules, but they're frequently contradictory. So rather than say "you're doing it wrong", I'd say "how does the way you are communicating gel with the communication you want to do?" For example, saying "lol" is a valid form of communication, but it carries different connotations from saying "I like that" or "hahaha" or "rolflolmao". Choose the type of communication that carries the connotations you want; make it an intentional choice rather than something that happens by default because you don't know any better.

Philip August 30, 2018 16:23

Hey Sky maybe stop being a dick to someone over a trivial grammar issue in a variant? The initial post was already unnecessarily mean and imperious, and it's kind of gotten worse. The game is being maintained and released for free, which means you're not really entitled to a fix. Also if it's a trivial fix you could, just, fix it, maybe even give the fix to the maintainer. And if it's not trivial, well, then the question of why it hasn't been fixed yet becomes clearer.

This seems like a rather counterproductive way to go about getting an issue fixed tbh.


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