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kroiz November 18, 2007 07:06

Tip request to survive invisible foes
 
:eek: I was killed by something I can not see on level 14. (That is very deep for me :D)
Could you please tip me on how to avoid that?
When I decended I did packed some detect invisible scrolls, but those don't last very long.

Mondkalb November 18, 2007 08:36

Besides those scrolls there are also staffs of detect invisible and potions (much better, because the effect lasts longer).
All of these are only of little help.
Until you get an item that grants see invisible, visit the black market often. Hopefully there will be a ring of see invisible finaly.


You should also watch out for an enchanted weapon (fo exeample a weapon of
Westernesse) which grants see invisible.
Even a cursed bow or crossbow of the nazgul could help (uncurse it). The give also si.

Pete Mack November 18, 2007 09:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by kroiz (Post 3876)
:eek: I was killed by something I can not see on level 14. (That is very deep for me :D)
Could you please tip me on how to avoid that?
When I decended I did packed some detect invisible scrolls, but those don't last very long.

There are various partial answers:
You can carry a Staff or scrolls of Detect Invisible.
If you are a Priest/Paladin you can detect evil (most dangerous, invisible monsters are evil.) Eventually you will get See Invisible as a spell.

And if you happen to have !See Invisible from the black market, that's even better.

But the real answer is:
when in doubt, teleport away. Use scrolls from the black market or a staff from the magic shop.

andrewdoull November 18, 2007 09:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete Mack (Post 3880)
But the real answer is:
when in doubt, teleport away. Use scrolls from the black market or a staff from the magic shop.

You might get lucky and be able to confront it in a hallway - run away if you can't teleport away, or phase door may be useful here to move to a better nearby location.

Be aware that many invisible creatures can also pass through walls, and this tactic should be reversed - using area of effect spells in a room to confront these monsters instead.

Andrew

Mondkalb November 18, 2007 10:04

For beginners it might also be wise to choose a race with the see invisible ability like high elf or at least infravision. The latter won't help for long as ghosts and other invisible creatures are cold blooded.

kroiz November 20, 2007 22:04

Thanks, I will bring you Morgoth head on a plate in no time :D

K.I.L.E.R November 21, 2007 06:09

I just attack in all directions until I hit the thing and then keep hitting in that direction until it dies.

If I have trouble finding it, I move to the closest corridoor and when I have moved back into the corridoor far enough I reverse direction and the invisible thing will be killed without effort.

Mondkalb November 21, 2007 07:59

When you are surrounded by clear hounds you may still be dead before reaching a corridor.
Also, clear worms and mushrooms can block the way and the mushrooms are breeding quite fast.

aeneas December 6, 2007 12:22

Were you playing a human? I'd stay away from humans as a beginner, for a number of reasons. There isn't much that should be killing you at 700' that can't be seen with infravision. But Pete is right- means of escape is _the_ key tactic in Angband. For instance, if you have a big stack of ?teleport_level you will never die if you don't put yourself in a position where you can be killed in a single turn.

APWhite December 7, 2007 18:37

When battling invisible guys, I will often drop food rations on the ground all around me on adjacent squares. If I am lucky the invisible guy will land on and pick up a ration, when I see the food vanish, I know where he is (at least for that round.) I can at least get a single hit on it.


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