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Nick January 8, 2008 11:04

Plans for FA031
 
I'm (probably) about to start serious work on the next version of FAangband. Things on my list include:
  1. Fix a zillion bugs;
  2. Redo squelch, using my favourite bits of how it's been done elsewhere;
  3. Ditto shop interface;
  4. Implement UnAngband's multiline messages;
  5. Big rework of dragons;
  6. Changes to Morgoth;
  7. Redo terrain with properties instead of a bunch of special cases, as in Sangband and UnAngband;
  8. More cleaning up of mouse controls;
  9. Put proper menus in item selection and spellcasting (not much change to the player);
  10. Update the low level codebase to the latest vanilla version.

If this sounds like a lot, it is. In fact, version 0.3.1 may be just the bugfix, although I'd like to get at least down to number 4. 5-7 will take a lot of thinking and/or code change, so may have to wait. 8 will happen in conjunction with mouse stuff I've been doing for Vanilla, and will be a work in progress for some time. 9 & 10 are a little dependent on what's happening in Vanilla development; I've been putting 9 off in the hope that someone else will do it, but I may end up doing it anyway.

Not on the list is fixing the WinCE port which broke for 030; I may look at that soon, but I have the feeling that the big low-level changes in 030 were the problem, and I'm hesitant to fix something that I may be about to break again.

Any comments appreciated.

Seany C January 8, 2008 11:51

Just 1-3 would be lovely in themselves (hell, just 1 would be great). :)

Any spoilers on what changes might be happening to dragons and Morgy?

Psi January 8, 2008 11:56

Sounds good! Comments as requested...
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Originally Posted by Nick (Post 4748)
Big rework of dragons

Any further info you want to share on that? I've no idea what you have in mind!
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Originally Posted by Nick (Post 4748)
Changes to Morgoth

Are you wanting to make him harder or just different? I'd be wary of him becoming tougher until it is clear what the effect of removing the RoP exploit is.
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Originally Posted by Nick (Post 4748)
Redo terrain with properties instead of a bunch of special cases, as in Sangband and UnAngband

This isn't going the NPP route is it? I've not played Un but I understand the NPP terrains come from there (and that is the only thing that I dislike in NPP so far). I don't think there is a need to overcomplicate the terrain.
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Originally Posted by Nick (Post 4748)
Not on the list is fixing the WinCE port which broke for 030; I may look at that soon, but I have the feeling that the big low-level changes in 030 were the problem, and I'm hesitant to fix something that I may be about to break again.

The release date on the new HP pdas keeps going back, but when they do eventually release I'll take a look at fixing that too.

Nick January 8, 2008 12:39

Dragons: thematic reasons, biggish changes. d's will be non-flying (and possibly called worms), D's flying. Probably no D's outside Angband - these guys will be really scary. All will be evil. Possible new breath type, a combination of fire and poison.

Morgoth: thematic reasons again. Incredibly quick isn't really in theme, so probably slow him down and make him summon more. Especially dragons :) Possibly introduce some extra wrinkles into the final fight, but I'm still thinking about that.

Terrain probably won't change much to the player, it will mainly be the way it's handled internally. The main observable change should be that the descriptions of terrain improve (on the knowledge screen, for example).

Psi January 8, 2008 12:56

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Originally Posted by Nick (Post 4752)
Morgoth: thematic reasons again. Incredibly quick isn't really in theme, so probably slow him down and make him summon more. Especially dragons :) Possibly introduce some extra wrinkles into the final fight, but I'm still thinking about that.

I like the sound of that. One of the tedious things for me has always been scumming for enough speed to avoid being double-moved by Morgoth - which is quite difficult in FA and O due to the lack of speed items, compared to V say where plenty of artifacts add a few points of speed.

Just as long as he isn't summoning at a rate like the Queen Ant...

takkaria January 8, 2008 15:16

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Originally Posted by Nick (Post 4748)
I'm (probably) about to start serious work on the next version of FAangband. Things on my list include:
  1. Fix a zillion bugs;
  2. Redo squelch, using my favourite bits of how it's been done elsewhere;
  3. Ditto shop interface;
  4. Implement UnAngband's multiline messages;

I'll probably try to steal 2,3,4, and maybe 5 if you do them. :)

Nick January 8, 2008 19:47

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Originally Posted by takkaria (Post 4754)
I'll probably try to steal 2,3,4, and maybe 5 if you do them. :)

Cool. I'll trade for 9 & 10.

takkaria January 8, 2008 20:09

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Originally Posted by Nick (Post 4760)
Cool. I'll trade for 9 & 10.

I'll prioritise 9 then, next time I want some repetitive and error-prone coding. (That'll be whilst watching TV, then.)

Psi January 9, 2008 08:48

Nature's Vengeance doesn't display any damage or radius info in my spell book. Could you possibly post it up, Nick (and add it to the game)? I can't download the source here at work to take a look for myself.

Also I seem to remember average druid damage being discussed at one point - did this make it into the game anywhere? I'd love to compare the damage I can do bare-handed with powerstrike (with the improved to-hit) against what I am getting with Narsil.

Nice to see Elvenkind boots making an appearance - I was lucky enough to buy some from the armoury!

Cheers,
Si

Nick January 9, 2008 10:24

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Originally Posted by Psi (Post 4781)
Nature's Vengeance doesn't display any damage or radius info in my spell book. Could you possibly post it up, Nick (and add it to the game)?

6d6 + clev/3, + another 25% if the monster is on a tree. And I've noted that to go in.

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Also I seem to remember average druid damage being discussed at one point - did this make it into the game anywhere? I'd love to compare the damage I can do bare-handed with powerstrike (with the improved to-hit) against what I am getting with Narsil.
Never made it in, now on the to do list.

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Nice to see Elvenkind boots making an appearance - I was lucky enough to buy some from the armoury!
Nice for some :(


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