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debo August 21, 2014 00:33

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Originally Posted by Amnekian (Post 94944)
Either I'm a moron or I can't find tome2 anywhere! Help?

It's a safety mechanism. The internet is trying to protect you.

Estie August 21, 2014 00:36

http://www.zaimoni.com/zaiband/Angband.ref/

TOME -> tome-235-win.zip for the latest windows executable.

Amnekian August 21, 2014 00:47

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Originally Posted by debo (Post 94945)
It's a safety mechanism. The internet is trying to protect you.

So...is ToME2 awful or something?

T-Mick August 21, 2014 00:50

ToME2 is on a whole different level than most roguelikes.

Amnekian August 21, 2014 00:55

In what way? Would like more specifics.

AnonymousHero August 21, 2014 07:07

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Originally Posted by Estie (Post 94946)
http://www.zaimoni.com/zaiband/Angband.ref/

TOME -> tome-235-win.zip for the latest windows executable.

(Shameless plug: )

There's also my fork which contains a bunch of fixes, but only minor gameplay changes (as of yet, at least).

The source is available from Gitorious, and somebody posted a link to an untested-by-me Window build in the T2 forum: Linky.

T-Mick August 21, 2014 17:15

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Originally Posted by Amnekian (Post 94949)
In what way? Would like more specifics.

Well, given enough experience(Somewhere in the range of 2 billion, I garner) and a few potions of speed, an alchemy character could conceivably make a ring of +200 attacks, if not more. When you get to that point, the quality of your weapon doesn't even matter, nor does your 2000+ SP. :p

AnonymousHero August 21, 2014 17:32

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Originally Posted by T-Mick (Post 94970)
Well, given enough experience(Somewhere in the range of 2 billion, I garner) and a few potions of speed, an alchemy character could conceivably make a ring of +200 attacks, if not more. When you get to that point, the quality of your weapon doesn't even matter, nor does your 2000+ SP. :p

There's no question Alchemy is completely broken and open to abuse -- I would recommend avoiding it. (And may remove it in my fork unless I can think of some easy way to fix it.)

Derakon August 21, 2014 17:39

I thought the real way to cheese Alchemy was to make indestructible wands of Manathrust that dealt a hundred thousand unresistable damage each time they're used and can be recharged with zero chance of failure.

I mean, grinding artifacts until you have millions of HP and can kill any enemy in a single round of combat is cool and all, but it takes months of effort to accomplish, while AIUI (I haven't played an Alchemist in ages) the wand approach is pretty straightforward.

Therem Harth August 21, 2014 18:18

@Derakon, I think you're thinking of the mage staff trick where you push spell-power through the roof?

@AnonymousHero, maybe get rid of artifact creation?


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