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s0be January 30, 2008 19:27

My first real potential winner...
 
I've been playing for a while... not sure how long, but I think I started fall of 99 when I got to college. I've been playing this character for 2 years maybe, mostly just to relax after work. I have not save scummed, but I've been abusing recharging ?Summon. I got lucky at around Dlvl25 with Ringil and started to truly believe I had a shot. I'm now working my way down through the depths. I have an unmodified (or in this case, encumbered) speed of +32.

Now, for those that have some time to think about it, anyone see any equipment changes that might improve my survivability?

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  [Angband 3.0.6 Character Dump]

 Name  s0be VI                                  Self  RB  CB  EB  Best
 Sex    Male              Age      110  STR! 18/100  +1  +3 +11 18/250
 Race  High-Elf          Height    106  INT! 18/100  +3  -3  +6 18/160
 Class  Paladin          Weight    204  WIS! 18/100  -1  +1  +6 18/160
 Title  Paladin Lord      Status    67  DEX! 18/100  +3  +0  +6 18/190
 HP    1009/1009        Maximize    Y  CON! 18/100  +1  +2 +14 18/270
 SP    345/345          Preserve    Y  CHR! 18/100  +5  +2  +1 18/180

 Level          50      Armor    [29,+115]    Saving Throw  Legendary
 Cur Exp  32551423      Fight    (+35,+28)    Stealth          Superb
 Max Exp  32551423      Melee    (+57,+53)    Fighting      Legendary
 Adv Exp  ********      Shoot    (+55,+22)    Shooting      Legendary
 MaxDepth  2750 ft      Blows      5/turn    Disarming        Superb
 Gold      14437959      Shots      2/turn    Magic Device  Legendary
 Burden  478.4 lbs                              Perception        Poor
 Speed          +22      Infra        40 ft    Searching          Poor

 You are one of several children of a Noldorin Warrior.  You have light
 grey eyes, straight black hair, and a fair complexion.



      abcdefghijkl@      abcdefghijkl@
 Acid:......++*+... Blind:.............
 Elec:.........+... Confu:......+......
 Fire:.........+... Sound:........+....
 Cold:+...+....+... Shard:.............
 Pois:...+..+...... Nexus:.............
 Fear:+.......++... Nethr:.............
 Lite:+....+......+ Chaos:........+....
 Dark:...+++....... Disen:.+...........

      abcdefghijkl@      abcdefghijkl@
S.Dig:+............ Stea.:.+.+...+.....
Feath:............. Sear.:.............
PLite:+........+... Infra:.............
Regen:+............ Tunn.:.............
Telep:.........+... Speed:+++....+...+.
Invis:+....+...+..+ Blows:.............
FrAct:+.......+.+.. Shots:.+...........
HLife:....++....... Might:.............


  [Character Equipment]

a) The Long Sword 'Ringil' (4d5) (+22,+25) (+10 to speed)
  It increases your speed by 10.  It slays trolls, undead, and all evil
  creatures, and is especially deadly against demons.  It is branded with
  frost.  It provides resistance to cold, fear, and light.  It is blessed
  by the gods, slows your metabolism, lights the dungeon around you, and
  speeds your regeneration.  It grants you immunity to paralysis and the
  ability to see invisible things.  It activates for frost ball (100)
  every 40 turns.  It cannot be harmed by the elements. 
b) The Long Bow 'Belthronding' (x3) (+20,+22) (+1)
  It increases your dexterity by 1.  It increases your stealth, speed,
  and shooting speed by 1.  It provides resistance to disenchantment.  It
  cannot be harmed by the elements. 
c) a Zircon Ring of Speed (+9)
  It increases your speed by 9. 
d) The Ring of Barahir (+1)
  It increases all your stats by 1.  It increases your stealth by 1.  It
  provides resistance to poison and dark.  It cannot be harmed by the
  elements. 
e) The Jewel 'Evenstar'
  It provides resistance to cold, dark, and life draining.  It sustains
  your intelligence, wisdom, and constitution.  It activates for restore
  life levels every 150 turns.  It cannot be harmed by the elements. 
f) The Arkenstone of Thrain
  It provides resistance to light, dark, and life draining.  It lights
  the dungeon around you.  It grants you the ability to see invisible
  things.  It activates for detection every 30+d30 turns.  It cannot be
  harmed by the elements. 
g) The Augmented Chain Mail of Caspanion (-2) [16,+20] (+3)
  It increases your intelligence, wisdom, and constitution by 3.  It
  provides resistance to acid, poison, and confusion.  It activates for
  door and trap destruction every 10 turns.  It cannot be harmed by the
  elements. 
h) The Cloak 'Holcolleth' [1,+10] (+2)
  It increases your intelligence and wisdom by 2.  It increases your
  stealth and speed by 2.  It provides resistance to acid.  It activates
  for sleep II every 55 turns.  It cannot be harmed by the elements. 
i) The Small Metal Shield of Thorin [3,+25] (+4)
  It increases your strength and constitution by 4.  It provides immunity
  to acid.  It provides resistance to fear, sound, and chaos.  It grants
  you immunity to paralysis.  It cannot be harmed by the elements. 
j) The Iron Helm of Dor-Lomin [5,+20] (+4)
  It increases your strength, dexterity, and constitution by 4.  It
  provides resistance to acid, lightning, fire, cold, and fear.  It
  lights the dungeon around you.  It grants you the power of telepathy
  and the ability to see invisible things.  It cannot be harmed by the
  elements. 
k) The Set of Leather Gloves 'Cambeleg' (+8,+8) [1,+15] (+2)
  It increases your strength and constitution by 2.  It grants you
  immunity to paralysis.  It cannot be harmed by the elements. 
l) a Pair of Hard Leather Boots of Speed [3,+11] (+10)
  It increases your speed by 10. 


  [Character Inventory]

a) 9 Holy Books of Prayers [Beginners Handbook] {@p1!d!k!v}
b) 14 Holy Books of Prayers [Words of Wisdom] {@p2@b2!d!k!v}
c) 20 Holy Books of Prayers [Chants and Blessings] {@p3@b3!d!k!v}
d) 16 Holy Books of Prayers [Exorcism and Dispelling]
e) 19 Holy Books of Prayers [Ethereal Openings] {@p4!d!k!v=g}
  It cannot be harmed by the elements. 
f) 6 Holy Books of Prayers [Godly Insights] {@p5@b1!d!k!v}
  It cannot be harmed by the elements. 
g) 8 Holy Books of Prayers [Purifications and Healing]
  It cannot be harmed by the elements. 
h) a Holy Book of Prayers [Holy Infusions]
  It cannot be harmed by the elements. 
i) 2 Holy Books of Prayers [Wrath of God]
  It cannot be harmed by the elements. 
j) 8 Dark Blue Potions of Speed
k) 13 Brown Potions of *Healing*
l) 21 Pungent Potions of Restore Mana
m) 23 White Potions of Restore Life Levels
n) 28 Scrolls titled "mieep derviv" of *Identify* {=g}
o) 3 Ivory Rods of Teleport Other
p) a Dogwood Staff of Summoning (1 charge)
q) a Cypress Staff of Enlightenment
r) The Amulet of Carlammas (+2)
  It increases your constitution by 2.  It provides resistance to fire. 
  It activates for protection from evil every 225+d225 turns.  It cannot
  be harmed by the elements. 
s) Multi-Hued Dragon Scale Mail (-2) [30,+15] {Archon 2600 ft}
  It provides resistance to acid, lightning, fire, cold, and poison.  It
  activates for breathe multi-hued (250) every 225+d225 turns.  It cannot
  be harmed by the elements. 
t) The Set of Gauntlets 'Camlost' (-12,-12) [2,+0] (-3) {cursed}
  It decreases your strength and dexterity by 3.  It provides resistance
  to fire and disenchantment.  It grants you immunity to paralysis, but
  it also aggravates creatures around you, drains experience, and is
  heavily cursed.  It cannot be harmed by the elements. 
u) The Two-Handed Sword 'Gurthang' (3d6) (+13,+17) (+2)
  It increases your strength by 2.  It is especially deadly against
  dragons.  It is branded with fire and poison.  It provides resistance
  to fire and poison.  It slows your metabolism and speeds your
  regeneration.  It grants you immunity to paralysis.  It cannot be
  harmed by the elements. 
v) The Executioner's Sword 'Crisdurian' (4d5) (+18,+19)
  It slays orcs, trolls, giants, dragons, undead, and all evil creatures.
  It grants you the ability to see invisible things.  It cannot be harmed
  by the elements. 
w) 27 Seeker Arrows of Slay Undead (4d4) (+8,+11)
  It slays undead. 


  [Home Inventory]

a) The Phial of Galadriel {@A1!d!k!v}
  It lights the dungeon around you.  It activates for illumination every
  10+d10 turns.  It cannot be harmed by the elements. 
b) The Star of Elendil
  It lights the dungeon around you.  It grants you the ability to see
  invisible things.  It activates for magic mapping every 50+d50 turns. 
  It cannot be harmed by the elements. 
c) The Full Plate Armour of Isildur [25,+25] (+1)
  It increases your constitution by 1.  It provides resistance to acid,
  lightning, fire, cold, confusion, sound, and nexus.  It cannot be
  harmed by the elements. 
d) The Mithril Plate Mail of Celeborn (-3) [35,+25] (+4)
  It increases your strength and charisma by 4.  It provides resistance
  to acid, lightning, fire, cold, dark, and disenchantment.  It activates
  for banishment every 500 turns.  It cannot be harmed by the elements. 
e) The Leather Scale Mail 'Thalkettoth' (-1) [11,+25] (+3)
  It increases your dexterity by 3.  It increases your speed by 3.  It
  provides resistance to acid and shards.  It cannot be harmed by the
  elements. 
f) The Cloak 'Colluin' [1,+15]
  It provides resistance to acid, lightning, fire, cold, and poison.  It
  activates for resistance (20+d20 turns) every 111 turns.  It cannot be
  harmed by the elements. 
g) The Large Leather Shield of Celegorm [4,+20]
  It provides resistance to acid, lightning, fire, cold, light, and dark.
  It cannot be harmed by the elements. 
h) The Large Metal Shield of Anarion [5,+20]
  It provides resistance to acid, lightning, fire, and cold.  It sustains
  all your stats.  It cannot be harmed by the elements. 
i) The Iron Helm of Gorlim (+8,+8) [5,+10] (-5) {cursed}
  It decreases your intelligence and wisdom by 5.  It decreases your
  searching by 5.  It provides resistance to fear.  It grants you
  immunity to paralysis and the ability to see invisible things, but it
  also aggravates creatures around you and is heavily cursed.  It cannot
  be harmed by the elements. 
j) The Pair of Soft Leather Boots of Wormtongue (-8,-8) [2,+0] (+3) {cursed}
  It increases your intelligence and dexterity by 3.  It increases your
  stealth and speed by 3.  It makes you fall like a feather.  It is cursed.
  It activates for phase door every 20 turns.  It cannot be harmed by the
  elements. 
k) The Broken Sword 'Narsil' (3d2) (+6,+10) (+2)
  It increases your strength and dexterity by 2.  It increases your
  attack speed by 2.  It slays orcs and trolls.  It provides resistance
  to fire.  It is blessed by the gods.  It cannot be harmed by the
  elements. 
l) The Dagger 'Angrist' (2d4) (+10,+15) [+5] (+4)
  It increases your dexterity by 4.  It increases your speed by 4.  It
  slays orcs, trolls, and all evil creatures.  It is branded with acid. 
  It provides resistance to acid and dark.  It sustains your dexterity. 
  It grants you immunity to paralysis.  It cannot be harmed by the
  elements. 
m) The Dagger of Rilia (2d4) (+4,+3)
  It slays orcs.  It is branded with poison.  It provides resistance to
  poison and disenchantment.  It activates for stinking cloud (12) every
  4+d4 turns.  It cannot be harmed by the elements. 
n) The Small Sword 'Sting' (1d6) (+7,+8) (+2)
  It increases your strength, dexterity, and constitution by 2.  It
  increases your speed and attack speed by 2.  It slays animals, orcs,
  undead, and all evil creatures.  It provides resistance to fear and
  light.  It lights the dungeon around you.  It grants you immunity to
  paralysis and the ability to see invisible things.  It cannot be harmed
  by the elements. 
o) The Short Sword 'Dagmor' (1d7) (+3,+7) (+2)
  It increases your attack speed by 2.  It slays animals.  It is branded
  with poison.  It slows your metabolism and speeds your regeneration. 
  It cannot be harmed by the elements. 
p) The Broad Sword 'Orcrist' (2d5) (+10,+15) (+3)
  It increases your searching by 3.  It slays orcs, dragons, and all evil
  creatures.  It is branded with frost.  It provides resistance to cold
  and dark.  It is blessed by the gods, slows your metabolism, and lights
  the dungeon around you.  It cannot be harmed by the elements. 
q) The Broad Sword 'Glamdring' (2d5) (+10,+15) (+1)
  It increases your searching by 1.  It cannot be harmed by the elements.
  It might have hidden powers.
r) The Long Sword 'Elvagil' (2d5) (+2,+7) (+2)
  It increases your dexterity and charisma by 2.  It increases your
  stealth by 2.  It slays orcs and trolls.  It makes you fall like a
  feather.  It grants you the ability to see invisible things.  It cannot
  be harmed by the elements. 
s) The Bastard Sword of Eowyn (4d4) (+12,+16) (+4 to stealth)
  It increases your strength and charisma by 4.  It increases your
  stealth and speed by 4.  It slays animals, giants, and all evil
  creatures, and is especially deadly against undead.  It provides
  resistance to cold, fear, dark, and nether.  It cannot be harmed by the
  elements. 
t) The Bastard Sword 'Calris' (5d4) (+9,+20) (+5)
  It increases your constitution by 5.  It slays trolls, demons, and all
  evil creatures, and is especially deadly against dragons.  It provides
  resistance to disenchantment.  It aggravates creatures around you.  It
  cannot be harmed by the elements. 
u) The Two-Handed Sword 'Mormegil' (3d6) (-15,-15) [-10] (-10) {cursed}
  It decreases your speed by 10.  It slays undead, and is especially
  deadly against dragons.  It is branded with poison.  It provides
  resistance to life draining.  It grants you the ability to see
  invisible things, but it also aggravates creatures around you, drains
  experience, and is heavily cursed.  It cannot be harmed by the
  elements. 
v) The Glaive of Pain (9d6) (+0,+30)
  It provides resistance to fear.  It cannot be harmed by the elements. 
w) The Short Bow of Amras (x2) (+12,+15) (+1 to speed)
  It increases your intelligence, wisdom, and dexterity by 1.  It
  increases your speed, shooting speed, and shooting power by 1.  It
  provides resistance to lightning, fire, and cold.  It slows your
  metabolism.  It cannot be harmed by the elements. 
x) The Long Bow of Bard (x3) (+17,+19) (+2)
  It increases your dexterity by 2.  It increases your speed and shooting
  power by 2.  It grants you immunity to paralysis.  It cannot be harmed
  by the elements. 


  [Options]

Adult: Allow purchase of stats using points  : no  (adult_point_based)
Adult: Allow specification of minimal stats  : yes (adult_auto_roller)
Adult: Maximize effect of race/class bonuses : yes (adult_maximize)
Adult: Preserve artifacts when leaving level : yes (adult_preserve)
Adult: Restrict the use of stairs/recall    : no  (adult_ironman)
Adult: Restrict the use of stores/home      : no  (adult_no_stores)
Adult: Restrict creation of artifacts        : no  (adult_no_artifacts)
Adult: Randomize some of the artifacts (beta): no  (adult_rand_artifacts)
Adult: Don't stack objects on the floor      : no  (adult_no_stacking)
Score: Peek into object creation            : no  (score_peek)
Score: Peek into monster creation            : no  (score_hear)
Score: Peek into dungeon creation            : no  (score_room)
Score: Peek into something else              : no  (score_xtra)
Score: Know complete monster info            : no  (score_know)
Score: Allow player to avoid death          : no  (score_live)


Nick January 30, 2008 20:00

That looks pretty close to final gear to me. You could use more WIS; in fact, "WIS is probably better than Evenstar at the moment. Filling some of the resistance holes would be nice, too - especially RBlind (although you only really have to worry about things that hit to blind now, I think). You are certainly safe to go quite a bit deeper - I'm not going to give any more aggressive advice to someone who's being playing this character for two years, though :)

s0be January 30, 2008 20:15

Haha, I was actually at about this strength hanging around at Dlvl40. When you're just sitting there slaughtering stuff, you don't realize how strong you are. I'm not 'attached' to this one any more than it's dozens of predecessors (just read the idea a couple years ago about appending iterators to the end to keep track of failed attempts... this should probably be something like s0be CXVII, haha). I've been working on diving today (day off from work thanks to crashing into a plow truck on my way in) and will see how far it goes. I think around 65 I'll stop. I'll try out higher Wis when I stumble across a big "Wis.

As an aside, I just ran into Saruman of Many Colours and slaughtered him a lot more quickly than I expected. I had more troubles with the Lernaean Hydra. Maybe RNG was being good to me though.

Paffa January 30, 2008 21:19

You'll definitely survive much deeper, just don't become too confident. And pray that you find Narya :D

s0be January 30, 2008 22:43

Well, first time at 3000' I encountered a (L.Dark A).... A few whacks at Azriel then a teleport away... recover whack teleport... rinse repeat. Took maybe half an hour, but got him. I made sure he never got be below 600hp in case he got me twice big in a row when teleport failed (which, never happened somehow). Didn't drop squat though.

s0be January 31, 2008 04:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick (Post 5162)
That looks pretty close to final gear to me. You could use more WIS; in fact, "WIS is probably better than Evenstar at the moment. Filling some of the resistance holes would be nice, too - especially RBlind (although you only really have to worry about things that hit to blind now, I think). You are certainly safe to go quite a bit deeper - I'm not going to give any more aggressive advice to someone who's being playing this character for two years, though :)


You weren't joking about rBlind... I almost got smoked by Gabriel and a horde of minions. I ended up luring him into one corner, teleported away, collected my loot and WoR'd... I'm not going after him until I'm rBlind.

Pete Mack February 4, 2008 08:02

You are carrying way to much stuff. Your base speed should be +30, but at 430lbs burden, you are slowed down to +22. You don't need to carry nearly so many books. You only need 1 each of the dungeon books, and usually 3 is enough for the basic 4. And certainly sell all the garbage in your home, and in your inventory. Almost all those weapon artifacts are worthless compared to Ringil, and most of those cursed artifacts are worthless in all situations. (Calris is a better sword than Ringil vs dragons, though you are unlikely to use it.)

You should be stockpiling Healing potions (3 types), Restore Mana, and scrolls of (Mass) Banishment instead.

Finally, one nasty thing about Paladins is that you end up carrying too many different books. You may want to use use the Star, and don't carry book 3. (Alternatively, use The Phial and don't carry book 1.)

And certainly don't carry !Restore Life or Purifications and Healing as a level 50 Paladin. You are playing with fire in that you are carrying NO guaranteed escapes. You should always carry either *Destruction*, or Teleport Level, or both.


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