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mrfy October 27, 2017 04:40

Another point of view: I'm a level clearer and I don't consider I've won until I've killed all of the uniques. Yes, it's not necessary, but that's my play style, and I've won a number of times mostly playing mages and rangers.

CivBesch October 27, 2017 06:06

Yes, I noticed that the priest is not very efficient in melee, so it forces me to find other ways to eliminate the monsters. It's a bit like chess playing.

But I am now wondering. If a priest is that weak for the lower DL's. Does that mean that you cannot win the game by killing Morgoth as the priest is too weak? or is it only possible with a priest if you are very lucky?

PowerWyrm October 27, 2017 08:26

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Originally Posted by CivBesch (Post 125365)
Yes, I noticed that the priest is not very efficient in melee, so it forces me to find other ways to eliminate the monsters. It's a bit like chess playing.

But I am now wondering. If a priest is that weak for the lower DL's. Does that mean that you cannot win the game by killing Morgoth as the priest is too weak? or is it only possible with a priest if you are very lucky?

Priest is probably the easiest class to win the game with. At higher level, you'll find stuff like mace of disruption of slay evil/holy avenger/extra attacks to deal with you melee ineffectiveness, and you can simply stay forever with unlimited healing, glyphs and evil banishing. All you need for the endgame is your spellbooks, a few CCWs if you lack pStun and a good supply of restore mana potions.

CivBesch October 27, 2017 08:32

In that context, while going deeper, is there a chance that priests can gain strength in any way?
- temporarily?
- sustained strength?

Mondkalb October 27, 2017 09:35

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Originally Posted by CivBesch (Post 125371)
In that context, while going deeper, is there a chance that priests can gain strength in any way?
- temporarily?
- sustained strength?

There are rings (and amulets and some other equipment as well, e. g. weapons and dwarven armor) to improve various stats, and potions that increase stats permanently, but they show up deeper.
You also will find potions that increase one stat at the cost of decreasing a random other stat, these show up earlier. In case of strength this is the "potion of brawn".

CivBesch October 27, 2017 11:44

thanks for that information.

PowerWyrm October 27, 2017 12:21

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Originally Posted by CivBesch (Post 125371)
In that context, while going deeper, is there a chance that priests can gain strength in any way?
- temporarily?
- sustained strength?

As a priest, you don't care about strength. What you want is wisdom, and quickly, so you can build your mana pool and spam OoD. You will care about strength only for the end game, and at that point it will be probably maxed out naturally.

CivBesch October 27, 2017 12:22

O, that's very interesting.

What's OoD?

Mondkalb October 27, 2017 12:27

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Originally Posted by CivBesch (Post 125381)
O, that's very interesting.

What's OoD?

Orb of Draining - THE priest spell (together with healing spells of course)

Sideways October 27, 2017 14:58

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Originally Posted by kandrc (Post 125360)
Priests can't do it, but the issue is not damage, it's lack of stone to mud. If you skip the forced descent and do levels multiple times, a priest could be successful in the approach, too, but it would be miserably slow.

See under: any of my priest winners. It's not that difficult to completely clear every level with a priest - even without using any line-of-sight tricks - if you take your time and don't dive too fast.

There isn't any one right way to play Angband. Do it your way and have fun.


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