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MattB October 3, 2013 21:08

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Originally Posted by Derakon (Post 85459)
Wow, with 5 blows/round and no other sources of +damage, you'd be doing 5*(10d8+44) ~= 445 damage/round vs. evil. Which doesn't sound like much, but you'd assuredly have more +damage somewhere on you (if nothing else, your STR score should be good for another +15 or so).

The dual immunities, useful resists, and other abilities are just icing on the cake, really.

And don't forget the fact that it's a blessed blunt weapon, which is handy.
And check out the activation!

Estie October 3, 2013 21:51

Since we compare MoD lengths, lemme show mine:

a) the Mace of Disruption of Oiontana (11d8) (+13,+13) {!k}
Found lying on the floor in a vault at 4900 feet (level 98).

Slays animals, undead.
*Slays* demons.
Branded with weak acid.
Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.

Combat info:
7.0 blows/round.
Average damage/round: 1491 vs. animals, 1491 vs. creatures not
resistant to acid, 1958.6 vs. undead, 2894.5 vs. demons, and
1023.4 vs. others.

Alas, no slay evil, and also its Feanor not Deathwreaker. It started out with crappy damage enchantment, I got it up to +13 with scrolls.

Without the +2 off weapon blows, it would be about 1065 acid, 1477 demon, 730 other.

Derakon October 3, 2013 23:02

You don't need Slay Evil when you have 11d8 base damage dice...

Timo Pietilš October 4, 2013 07:23

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Originally Posted by Derakon (Post 85466)
You don't need Slay Evil when you have 11d8 base damage dice...

Since normal MoD dice is 5d8 that's 2x slay everything and then some.

MattB October 4, 2013 11:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Estie (Post 85465)
Since we compare MoD lengths, lemme show mine:

Alright, I'll admit it: your one's bigger than my one.:mad:

Timo Pietilš October 4, 2013 11:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Estie (Post 85465)
2894.5 vs. demons

Balrog of Moria: Feel my wrath!
You: *WHACK*
Balrog: That's just unfair. <dies>

Philip October 4, 2013 12:02

Yeah, the demon damage is nice, but you can't ignore the Acid Brand. Hi sauron!

PowerWyrm October 4, 2013 13:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Estie (Post 85465)
Without the +2 off weapon blows, it would be about 1065 acid, 1477 demon, 730 other.

That's sick. What does provide +2 EA? Gloves?

Timo Pietilš October 4, 2013 13:36

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Originally Posted by Philip (Post 85473)
Yeah, the demon damage is nice, but you can't ignore the Acid Brand. Hi sauron!

When Rings of Acid still gave you brand I usually used that and MoD or BoC of Fury +2 against Sauron. 1000+ damage was not uncommon even with Priest. Against Morgoth there was some competition from other weapons, but not much (fury weapons had +25+ to_dam usually).

High-dice extra blow weapons can still be rather good even without any other bonuses, and MoD has inherit slay undead.

Estie October 4, 2013 22:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by PowerWyrm (Post 85474)
That's sick. What does provide +2 EA? Gloves?

Body armor, and it was one of the big ones (deathwreaker or bladeturner base, dont recall which).

http://angband.oook.cz/ladder-show.php?id=14911

Its a project where some character died, I checked the artifact list and made a new one with same artifacts, playing till I found all the goodies. In a normal playthrough you dont get such a setup :P

Nonetheless, it was fun.


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