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Sky December 1, 2020 09:57

Priests, what is your Morgoth tactic ?
 
Let me hear what is your preferred tactic for the final Morgoth fight with a Priest.

My current character has 2/3 viable setups, one with 3 immunities, 300 DPS and +34 Spd hasted, and 4 sustains (no sWIS). 18/110 STR so a MoD is out of the question.
Another has +55 Spd hasted, 160 DPS, no sustains. I can change weapon and drop to +47 Spd hasted, 320 DPS, but again no sustains.
Sure, i can cast Restoration, but it costs a lot of mana.

My launcher sucks.

My initial idea was to build a fortress of Glyphs and use Annihilation (3% fail). Orb is not really viable, as it just takes too many castings, and generally it becomes a summoning nightmare as Morgoth calls hordes of dangerous breathers.

Werbaer December 1, 2020 12:15

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Originally Posted by Sky (Post 149688)
Let me hear what is your preferred tactic for the final Morgoth fight with a Priest.

Combination of Wands of Annihilation and Orb of Draining. No Glyphs of Warding (i use these only with melee characters).

I use Wands of Drain Life, Annihilation, and Dragon Fire/Frost to kill high-level non-evil uniques. Sometimes i have a stack of Annihilation wands left to use vs Morgoth, sometimes i don't.

Yes, it takes ~130 Orbs to kill Morgoth. But with the Banish Evil spell and some potions of Restore Mana, a priest has the time.

I try to save all scrolls of Banishment and Mass Banishment for the final fight. In addition, i use Banish Evil sometimes to teleport away summons. I had one game where i didn't use Banishment or Mass Banishment at all in the final fight, only Banish Evil and Teleport Other.

Since i don't melee, i even carry Staffs of Banishment sometimes. In current versions, summoned monsters are placed with 0 Energy. So with a speed of +34, i am guaranteed 2 actions before 'fast' monsters move. When Morgoth summons only evil monsters (dragons, demons, undead), and nothing very fast and dangerous, i can try to use the staff. If it fails, i still can use a scroll, or Banish Evil if Morgoth casts a Mana Storm.

Sphara December 1, 2020 13:31

Usually with a good launcher and wands of annihilation.

New vanilla version has a spell Light of Manwe, which is poor man's Mana Storm. I use that if I have lots of wisdom and means to recover MP (Staff of Magi, !RestoreMana). I remember annihilation spell being rather weak given the MP cost, but that would have to do if no anni-wands, badass launcher+ammo or good melee were available. I suppose melee is only doable with some uber artifacts or extreme patience.

I've killed Morgoth once exclusively with Orbs and I wouldn't do it again. Took ages.

Sky December 1, 2020 22:23

.. but, Banish Evil banishes Morgoth as well.

.. i mean, that's not terribly bad, but, he could still potentially get stuck behind a vault and recover all lost hp.

Ingwe Ingweron December 2, 2020 03:36

The answer, I feel, in every case is -- it depends.

What did your priest find along the way? If it's wearing Power Dragon Mail and wielding Deathwreaker, then just pummel him to death.

If your priest isn't great in armor or melee, a more ordinary situation, use a destruct area and kill him at range using missiles, spells, wands.

It's always a question of situation, rather than specific race/class.

PowerWyrm December 2, 2020 08:47

MoD or equivalent + melee. You have infinite heal and banish evil/destruction for summons.

archolewa December 2, 2020 22:37

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Originally Posted by PowerWyrm (Post 149713)
MoD or equivalent + melee. You have infinite heal and banish evil/destruction for summons.

This is how I got my first ever Angband win. Talk about a tense marathon of a fight. I think it lasted 45 minutes, my heart hammering harder with every star Morgoth lost. When he finally died I sat staring at the screen for moment, not really believing it. Before this character I think the deepest I got was DL60 or something.

sffp December 4, 2020 01:13

I used elite arrows and the big damage maker in the last book (forget the name). But of course, the coup was delivered with an orb of draining for old times sake.

Sky December 4, 2020 05:15

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Originally Posted by sffp (Post 149754)
I used elite arrows and the big damage maker in the last book (forget the name). But of course, the coup was delivered with an orb of draining for old times sake.

ha. i did that too.

4.1 Annihilation is useless, btw.

EnragedHopper January 9, 2021 07:04

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Originally Posted by archolewa (Post 149725)
This is how I got my first ever Angband win. Talk about a tense marathon of a fight. I think it lasted 45 minutes, my heart hammering harder with every star Morgoth mcdvoice lost. When he finally died I sat staring at the screen for moment, not really believing it. Before this character I think the deepest I got was DL60 or something.

I try to save all scrolls of Banishment and Mass Banishment for the final fight. In addition, i use Banish Evil sometimes to teleport away summons. I had one game where i didn't use Banishment or Mass Banishment at all in the final fight, only Banish Evil and Teleport Other.


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