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warlin October 1, 2008 14:53

Have we all been there? !DEATH
 
http://angband.oook.cz/ladder-show.php?id=8108

Heh, didnt know potions could kill you! Thought it was safe to drink unIDd pots, but
then again, this game never ceased to suprise me.

Random thoughts; :D

At the time I was battling a small dragon pit, which yielded lots of good equipment.

I did that because I wanted the inventory slot, and I had no other means to ID things.

This char was probably my best attempt yet items wise. First time I played withouth
Randarts, and autoscumming for good levels off.
(had lots of interesting levels non-theless)

Previous quest was for Haroween the black, and just before I met him, I battled a
Ancient fire dragon, which I used my swap weapon for. Haroween then proceded to
steal my main weapon, I then had to flee from him, so I never saw that weapon again.
Thats why i'm using that halberd.
If my calculation are correct, it does 105 average damage (counting dice, acid, melee
bonus from weapon and #blows)

The crossbow I was carrying was doing amazing damage. But can someone explain to me
what "It increases your shooting power by 2" means?
I guess it ups the "Shooting" category by 2, but whats the difference between having
it 2 levels higher? And are "Legendary" max you can have? If so, wouldnt that extra +2 mean nothing?

Couldnt find any decent rings, nor amulets. Why ain't there some amulets inbetween
searching/acid/lighting/slow digestion/wisdom and the realy good ones? All my chars
(100s) have been stuck with lousy amulets.

I've problems finding confusion resistance, in fact can't remember last char who got
it.

As you can see

| 693390| 47 | 35 | Destroyed Akhorahil the Blind
| 694119| 47 | 35 | Found The Phial 'Areleb'
| 694130| 47 | 35 | Found The Star 'Eilirmor'
| 694141| 47 | 35 | Found The Broad Sword 'Mahalar'
| 694297| 47 | 35 | Found The Large Leather Shield of Anenorth

Akhorahil the Blind had a really good drop, sucks though it was mere
minutes before this death.
That sword in my inventory really trumps what i'm wealding, but it was unIDd. (160 AVG
damage compared to the 105 above, and 220 against dragons)

pav October 1, 2008 15:07

Lose that Accuracy ring, get another Damage ring instead, I'd say.

I count five other victims of Potion of Death on the whole Ladder.

3000' is a good depth for interesting amulets like Carlammas or Weaponmastery. Before then, it's bore.

Nice to see someone else still playing NPP, BTW.

warlin October 1, 2008 15:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by pav (Post 10663)
Lose that Accuracy ring, get another Damage ring instead, I'd say.

I wanted to but found only cursed ones. I was looking for that, or CON rings. Found 1 CON+2 ring, but a measly +20HPs I found was worse than hitting more often.

Seany C October 1, 2008 15:10

>>
Heh, didnt know potions could kill you! Thought it was safe to drink unIDd pots, but
then again, this game never ceased to suprise me.
>>
In some variants (FAAngband, for example), Potions of Death hit you for your total hitpoints - so you die instantly only if you're below max HP - otherwise, you get taken down to 0 HP.

>>
The crossbow I was carrying was doing amazing damage. But can someone explain to me
what "It increases your shooting power by 2" means?
I guess it ups the "Shooting" category by 2, but whats the difference between having
it 2 levels higher? And are "Legendary" max you can have? If so, wouldnt that extra +2 mean nothing?
>>
Hmm, in most variants, "It increases your shooting power by 2" increases your ranged weapon's multiplier by 2 - so your Light Crossbow would actually be a (x5) rather than the regular (x3). Not so shabby if you're an arching type, although I usually only wield a bow for the non-arching bonuses...

buzzkill October 2, 2008 05:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by warlin (Post 10662)
http://angband.oook.cz/ladder-show.php?id=8108

Heh, didn't know potions could kill you! Thought it was safe to drink unIDd pots, but then again, this game never ceased to surprise me.


Never encountered !Death (yet), but just today playing [FA] quaffed an un-ID'd potions to make room in my pack, thinking..... what's the worst that could happen?

My results were better. It turned out to be *wisdom*, a first for me, and suddenly I could learn 14 new spells. Now if I could only find a dungeon spell book or 2... or 3. (Is this normal behavior for a pot of wisdom. I already know all the spells I can learn in my first 4 books).

Pete Mack October 2, 2008 05:57

I've never quaffed a !Death, but I did die once to an out-of-depth !Detonations, around dl 25. Once you can afford to ID potions and scrolls, you should do so. Curse armor/weapon can also really ruin your game.

Seany C October 2, 2008 11:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete Mack (Post 10695)
I've never quaffed a !Death, but I did die once to an out-of-depth !Detonations, around dl 25. Once you can afford to ID potions and scrolls, you should do so. Curse armor/weapon can also really ruin your game.

Agreed in 'normal' games - I think it became an issue in FAAngband due to 'thrall mode', where you start at the equivalent of 2900ft with limited equipment...

(Curse Armor/Weapon being nasty is a good point - in FAA thrall mode, scrolls are inherently risky as reading one un'IDed scroll of Summon Monster/Teleport/TL can be fatal...)

warlin October 2, 2008 13:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by warlin (Post 10662)
http://angband.oook.cz/ladder-show.php?id=8108

The crossbow I was carrying was doing amazing damage. But can someone explain to me
what "It increases your shooting power by 2" means?
I guess it ups the "Shooting" category by 2, but whats the difference between having
it 2 levels higher? And are "Legendary" max you can have? If so, wouldnt that extra +2 mean nothing?

Anyone know this?

Nick October 2, 2008 14:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by warlin (Post 10704)
Anyone know this?

It increases the multiplier - so a Long Bow, which is normally (x3), would be effectively (x5).

aeneas October 2, 2008 16:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick (Post 10705)
It increases the multiplier - so a Long Bow, which is normally (x3), would be effectively (x5).

And that's really huge. Nice bow, basically, particularly with branded ammo. If it had had better +to_dam it would have been amazing. NPP has ridiculous bows. Don't worry about things like the "Legendary" rating.

I've never quaffed !Death, but once on a whim I decided to read a scroll on the floor of a vault at 4000'. I have no idea why I did that- it cursed my armor, which was Caspanion, and I almost suicided right there. I was able to come back from that, but not without real difficulty...


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