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budswell November 23, 2020 13:33

[frog] Stuck in bear form
 
Hi,
So I'm playing a beorning. Bear for melee, human for spells (ranger), missile, and devices.

But while brawling some orcs I was cursed and so it will not let me change back to human form.
So I think I may be stuck as a bear until I die:
- bear form cannot read scrolls, so even if I find remove curse I cannot read it
- bear form cannot read scrolls, so cannot recall back to town and get uncursed (is there even a shop which uncurses? I've only ever used scrolls)
- bear form appears to be super rubbish at devices. Found my first rod (don't know what it is - no identify) but have failed 100+ attempts in a row. So if I find rod of recall will not be able to use it
- coffee break mode, so cannot walk back to town (no ups) and get uncursed

Am I stuck?
The only other thing I can think of is try and find some magic mushrooms patches and hope they polymorph me into a yeek or snotling or something? Will I be able to use devices/scrolls then?

Edit: Dead now http://angband.oook.cz/ladder-show.php?id=24034
So was I missing something or is being cursed when in bear form pretty much permanent?

Sideways November 27, 2020 10:07

Bear form is like berserker, you can uncurse equipped items just by taking them off. (You may need to attempt it several times, but it will work eventually.)

budswell November 27, 2020 15:39

Cool, thanks again. People pay for much poorer support than you provide.

Never occered to me to even try.
Is that true for all races/classes? Or just beorning-bears and beserkers? (and ig so does that include weerwolf-wolves?)

Sideways November 27, 2020 15:57

You can only remove cursed items as a Berserker, Beorning (bear-form only) or Mummy. (Taking off cursed items as a Mummy does not uncurse them, since mummies tend to want as many curses as possible.) Permanently cursed items cannot be removed this way.

Werewolves have to uncurse items before taking them off.

Seraphimus November 28, 2020 09:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sideways (Post 149629)
You can only remove cursed items as a Berserker, Beorning (bear-form only) or Mummy. (Taking off cursed items as a Mummy does not uncurse them, since mummies tend to want as many curses as possible.) Permanently cursed items cannot be removed this way.

Werewolves have to uncurse items before taking them off.

Wait, mummies, and werewolves? are these normally playable races/classes or a possessor thing, or like a test feature I can figure out how to use, because I cant find them anywhere and I'd love to have a werewolf or mummy monster class, that sounds fun. (Tbh I just want more monster classes in general, they're my favorite thing about frog)

CyclopsSlayer November 28, 2020 13:47

Werewolves are a Normal race in the Shapeshifter category. Mummies are in the Monster play under Undead.

budswell November 28, 2020 16:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seraphimus (Post 149634)
Wait, mummies, and werewolves? are these normally playable races/classes or a possessor thing, or like a test feature I can figure out how to use, because I cant find them anywhere and I'd love to have a werewolf or mummy monster class, that sounds fun. (Tbh I just want more monster classes in general, they're my favorite thing about frog)

At the very start screen you have to choose 'm' for monster, NOT 'n' for normal. In there you will find unded, jellies, possesors, rings, spiders, pumpkins, and all sorts of other stuff. I have tried many (but not all) of them out. Did about the same as I always do (die somewhere between CL25 and CL30)

Seraphimus November 28, 2020 19:39

Thank you, but I did know that. he mentioned mummies and werewolves and they do not appear to be in that list anywhere

budswell November 29, 2020 01:16

So with new (or dead char) save file:
Mummy:
- (m) Monster
- (r) Race
- (k) Undead
- (b) Mummy

Werewolf (Sorry, I was wrong, it is a normal race):
- (n) Normal
- (r) Race
- (g) Shapeshifter
- (c) Werewolf

This playing version 7.1.salmaik

Seraphimus November 29, 2020 07:38

ahkay, I think I missed that update is what's going on Thank you very much


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