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Quirk September 24, 2021 19:05

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Originally Posted by Infinitum (Post 155505)
Speaking of speculation; just noticed that there are no acidproof cloak egos. Not a biggie, but it does make lategame item/nameless things management slightly more annoying.

Yeah nameless things are on my list of things to improve at some point. They're not particularly interesting or rewarding to fight, they're just nasty to your stuff.

How do people feel currently about the acid destruction mechanic?

bron September 24, 2021 19:44

I find the loss of "Cloak of Protection" to be annoying; I'm sure there are reasons.

bron September 24, 2021 19:48

Possible bug: I note that "Song of Delvings" doesn't seem to work right around the edges, and particularly not in the corners, of the map. I'm guessing that there is some sort of "range" on the effect, and once your distance to the edge is less than the range, it stops working. Or something like that. I admit I have not investigated the issue very closely.

Infinitum September 24, 2021 20:13

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Originally Posted by Quirk (Post 155507)
How do people feel currently about the acid destruction mechanic?

Given how often the mechanic creeps up in games, one must conjecture that there exists a breed of degenerates that enjoys them. It remains unproven far as I can tell though.

Quirk September 24, 2021 21:05

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Originally Posted by Infinitum (Post 155505)
EDIT: Morgoth Bauglir, the fell enemy and black lord of darkness can be slain by mortal hand.

Attempts to fix this are ongoing.

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Originally Posted by Infinitum (Post 155505)
EDIT: Chasms can be generated as to completely cut off a levels up and down staircases. Happened during my ascent. Not a biggie; although it might've been.

Have made some attempts to fix this, but the generation code is of very dubious quality and probably needs a comprehensive rewrite.

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Originally Posted by Infinitum (Post 155505)
EDIT: Carcaroth's tile is bipedal, which is not consistent with his description in the Silmarilion (which is specifically the biggest wolf, specifically bred as a nemesis to Huan).

Any thoughts, Microchasm?

HugoVirtuoso September 24, 2021 23:07

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Originally Posted by Quirk (Post 155511)
Attempts to fix this are ongoing.

How about reverting Morgoth's difficulty & aggression back to his 1.4.1 version? Consensus says that was the toughest Morgoth, period.

MicroChasm September 25, 2021 00:59

I appreciate the tiles critiques so far, Infinitum. I have already modified the chasm tile to be darker than the blackness tile, which is something that I should have done a long time ago. I see the issue with the forges as well. It looks like a mix-up with tile assignments and should be an easy fix.

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Originally Posted by Infinitum (Post 155505)
EDIT: Carcaroth's tile is bipedal, which is not consistent with his description in the Silmarilion (which is specifically the biggest wolf, specifically bred as a nemesis to Huan).

I think it is a good idea to revisit the Carcoroth tile. This is an issue that I am aware of, and really all of the werewolves fall under this critique, but Carchoroth is the worst offender. The others look, to me, to be halfway between standing and simply rearing up, but Carchoroth really does like bipedal. I've changed and adjusted the werewolves many times and have never been 100% happy with them.

A similar issue was brought up in an earlier release about the vampires looking too human. I made them more bestial and I think they are better for it. They are probably still too humanoid for some people, but here I would be more inclined to argue for my right to artistic interpretation.

Infinitum September 25, 2021 02:03

Well, good thing Tolkien was never big on descriptions. It would be an awful lot of wolves to pose in 16x16 pixels. One alternate look for the werewolves might be going full "attack on titan" maybe; screwing up their proportions a bit? Something proportioned more like this could still be wolflike enough but distinct? Re-reading of Bereth and Luthien and imagining WolfMan in lieu of a more canine Carc does get pretty ridiculous fast though.

Wiwaxia September 25, 2021 07:37

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Originally Posted by Quirk (Post 155507)
Yeah nameless things are on my list of things to improve at some point. They're not particularly interesting or rewarding to fight, they're just nasty to your stuff.

How do people feel currently about the acid destruction mechanic?

I actually quite like nameless things as-is. They occupy a unique niche in terms of being absolutely not worth fighting but easy to avoid while also slowly trashing the dungeon and making it more dangerous by way of opening up new passages (mostly relevant for smiths and thresholds builds, mind).

Acid destruction feels a little clunky and not quite in-theme, but I do like the gameplay effect of nameless things and crawling H as slow monsters that you really, really do not want to let get a turn while you're still standing next to them, and nothing inspires that quite like equipment degradation.

wobbly September 25, 2021 08:59

Infinitum's kill looks reasonable. That's crazy evasion + saithnar. It seems reasonable to me that that power level without saithnar should work, otherwise anyone aiming for the kill will smith to guarantee the weapon.


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