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Old November 4, 2018, 23:42   #5
Quirk
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So now we're into proper Tolkien trivia, and perhaps more questionable denizens of Angband.

Nan and the sword Glend are mentioned in the Lay of Leithian, which I've already mentioned, and which is the main inspiration of Sil, telling as it does the tale of Beren and Luthien's descent into Angband to cut loose a Silmaril with Angrist:
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Originally Posted by The Lay of Leithian, Canto VI
Names she sought, (290)
and sang of Glend, the sword of Nan;
of Gilim, the giant of Eruman;
and last and longest named she then
the endless hair of Uinen,
the Lady of the Sea, that lies (295)
through all the waters under skies
I believe Nan is also mentioned in the Book of Lost Tales, which I sadly lack:
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Giant

The cats, though!
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Tevildo

The cats stem from an earlier draft of Tolkien's tale of the quest for the Silmaril before being replaced by the werewolves who served Sauron in his guise as Thu. Arguably it's a bit cheap to keep round creatures from an earlier draft, but as these are authentically Tolkien-penned I didn't purge them when I got rid of deathblades, and this is the first I've heard someone expressing a desire to lose them.

I think I would only really be prepared to get rid of them if I had something at least equally interesting to put in their place. One thing I have considered as a template is the "fell beasts" on which the Nazgûl rode:
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Originally Posted by The Lord of the Rings
A creature of an older world maybe it was, whose kind, lingering in forgotten mountains cold beneath the Moon, outstayed their day, and in hideous eyrie bred this last untimely brood, apt to evil.
Sadly, while hints of "fell creatures" and "fell beasts" lurk round the edges of the stories of Utumno and Angband, pretty much everything that has even a small part to play in the works touching Morgoth's story corresponds to a type of some sort e.g. dragon, or Easterling, or wolf, etc. Tolkien clearly was not so constrained when creating the Watcher in the Water or the Nazgûl's steeds, but Sil keeps mostly to things more directly mentioned in Tolkien's work, and if it embroiders a little on topics such as spiders, the brood of Ungoliant leaves plenty of room for such embroidery.

In some ways I find the idea of Dwarf Fortress's "forgotten beasts" seems more Tolkienesque to me than the escapees of early Tolkien drafts of the Silmaril tale, though the manner of procedural generation makes the results rather less than Tolkienesque much of the time.
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