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Old September 12, 2018, 16:32   #6
Pete Mack
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Yes, OP loot isnt good. Finding a thanc at DL 5 once is good. Finding it in a large fraction of games is a design error. The other thing that has changed is there is less pressure to advance. There used to at least be lethal traps at low level, and for humans with a torch, floating eyes. Those are no longer a risk, soa more cautious game becomes optimal. OOD monsters would be a good replacement. Make them up to (say) 7 levels out of depth at early levels, and slow advancement becomes more dangerous. This becomes a low level alternative to special rooms, dangerous pits, and vaults.
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