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Old August 11, 2017, 21:45   #25
Ingwe Ingweron
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[QUOTE=kandrc;123216]And Gandalf the Grey--not the much-more-powerful Gandalf the White!--took the balrog out without even having Imm Fire and without allowing it to so much as injure any members of the fellowship./QUOTE]

I think the Balrog of Moria is appropriate where it is, and similarly powered as the other monsters found in the Lord of the Rings (e.g., Smaug, Saruman, etc.), whereas monsters in the First Age (Angalacon, Ungoliant, etc.) were all that much more terrifying. Ungoliant nearly killed Morgoth. At some point, @ just happens to get more powerful than Gandalf ever was. Has to, to be able to take out Morgoth in combat.

As for Gandalf and immunity to fire. I don't know if he was immune, but Gandalf the Grey has been wearing Narya ever since his arrival in Middle-Earth. As I recall, Cirdan the Shipwright, original bearer of this Elven Ring, didn't trust Saruman from the beginning and gave his ring to Gandalf for his mission in Middle-Earth.
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