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Old February 1, 2012, 14:15   #51
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Probably an X11 bug that the variant just accidentally triggers. X should never ever crash. (But in practice crashes more often than Windows 98. )
Yeah, possibly.
At least there is not that hideous winblows' blue screen of death, and there is no need to force a system reboot, either

Wow, maybe I'm outrageously lucky, but I don't remember X11 has crashed on me *that* much in 10+ years, just once or twice I think
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Old February 1, 2012, 21:33   #52
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Well, either way you lose unsaved work... Same difference IMO.

Recently I think X has gotten better about not crashing, though it's also gotten worse about having fallback options in case accelerated rendering does crash. That being said, all told I've gotten about as many crashes in total from Linux as I have from Windows, and that includes a period using Windows 98/98SE.

(Though 98SE was pretty stable if you didn't mess with it too much. Shame it made MacOS 9 look like a stunning example of OS security.)
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Old February 1, 2012, 22:15   #53
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Well, either way you lose unsaved work... Same difference IMO.
Although a reboot of a win box was slower than just run xstart, I agree with you, it's lost work anyway

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(Though 98SE was pretty stable if you didn't mess with it too much. Shame it made MacOS 9 look like a stunning example of OS security.)
That is, if you just install it and don't touch it at all ever after?
Yep, no operating system is perfect (yet), and MacOS 9 had his faults, but it was still way better than windows on the security front.

IIRC, it was about those years that the following joke began to circulate:
WINDOWS as an acronim means "Work Is Never Done On Windows Systems"
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Old February 2, 2012, 00:58   #54
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True enough for me, most of the serious (and not-so-serious) computer stuff I do is done on Linux.

BTW Underdark seems to have nothing going on since July 2011.
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Old February 2, 2012, 13:40   #55
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True enough for me, most of the serious (and not-so-serious) computer stuff I do is done on Linux.

BTW Underdark seems to have nothing going on since July 2011.
Indeed...let's hope this will change sometime.

I can offer a little help regarding your question
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With July 25 git version:
Compiling

Lots of warnings about "initialization discard[ing] qualifiers from pointer target type." Not sure if that's inherited from NPP, or even important at all.

Makefile.std refers to snd-sdl.o but never compiles it (and couldn't in any case since snd-sdl.c does not exist). This causes linking to fail.
I just compiled npp from scratch, and it gives the same warnings, but it seems to run well, so they shouldn't be harmful. And even there snd-sdl.c is missing, BTW, so makefile.std needs to be edited accordingly.
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It seems that the warnings are indeed inherited from NPP. Therem, thanks for the workaround...

Qwerty is still silent, and I realized I don't know enough about programming to do this.

Anyone willing to help me?
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It seems that the warnings are indeed inherited from NPP. Therem, thanks for the workaround...

Qwerty is still silent, and I realized I don't know enough about programming to do this.

Anyone willing to help me?
Which version of NPP, and what are you using to compile?

NPP 0.5.4 is being released today. It compiles cleanly with MINGW for windows. In linux, (ubuntu), 054 compiles cleanly as well with one warning for main.sdl. 053 has plenty of harmless compiler warnings that have been cleaned up. I don't have access to a MAC, but AFAIK everything works ok.
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Old March 18, 2012, 16:58   #58
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Qwerty is still silent...
On that note, I hope nothing bad has happened.
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Old March 18, 2012, 18:01   #59
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Which version of NPP, and what are you using to compile?

NPP 0.5.4 is being released today. It compiles cleanly with MINGW for windows. In linux, (ubuntu), 054 compiles cleanly as well with one warning for main.sdl. 053 has plenty of harmless compiler warnings that have been cleaned up. I don't have access to a MAC, but AFAIK everything works ok.
It was NPP 0.5.2.

I don't know what qwerty used, I just edited some text files pertaining to races.

EDIT: I'll grab NPP 0.5.4 and the files from the repo qwerty set up and will try to run it. Will see what happens.
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The above didn't work IIRC.

Dropped off the face of the earth for a year, sorry, studies.

I'm going to restart this variant. My coding skills are a little better (I contributed a little to an open-source game), but still pretty limited.
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