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Old March 26, 2012, 02:21   #1
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New guy here

I didn't see a "new guy" forum, so here goes.

I am actually a rather recent rogue-like player, but now I can't stop

I have played Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup for several months, dabbled with Dungeons of Dredmor, Doom RL, Frozen Depths and now Angband. I must say, despite being "less sophisticated" in some ways, Angband has me hooked.

I am trying so hard to not read spoiler stuff, since I really love the experience of adventuring into the unknown.

In any event, kudos and hope to have some interesting conversations on this forum.


As an aside, playing the game on linux, and with straight up ASCII. No tiles for me for this one
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Old March 26, 2012, 03:59   #2
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ASCII is absolutely the best way to play, regardless of the beauty of the tiles (and current ones are stunning). Lots more information can be packed into a few pixels with ascii than it can be with a picture.

Enjoy the game. Good instinct not to read spoilers. You'll have a blast.
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Old March 26, 2012, 04:50   #3
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Welcome to the forums! Be forewarned: we're really open with spoilers here, so you'll have to be careful about which posts you read.

I hope you continue to enjoy Angband! If if ever manages to get dull for you, there's a bunch of variants available as well that change things up.
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Old March 26, 2012, 05:36   #4
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yeah, I looked at some of the variants, but I figured I'd start with the original. I had wanted to do one of the "big old ones" as far as roguelikes goes, and nethack does my head in.
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Old March 26, 2012, 09:06   #5
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Quote:
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Welcome to the forums! Be forewarned: we're really open with spoilers here, so you'll have to be careful about which posts you read.
Also be warned that some people fail to win even with every single piece of information that game has down to specifics of how RNG has been coded.

Game is not very hard if you just remember to bail out whenever in immediate danger of dying. Everything else is making that "immediate danger of dying" as rare as possible. Boredom is also major killer, so don't play too slow. Find your own balance between too fast and too slow. Pay attention to what you are doing. Learn from your deaths, so that you don't repeat the mistake you made that time. Think what could have saved you, if you didn't have that something that could have saved you and prepare next time.

Luck plays a role here and every now and then even the most experienced players with almost constant winning record die to unbelievable bad set of sequential event, so don't feel bad if you die "without your own fault".
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Old March 26, 2012, 15:16   #6
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Thanks, I appreciate the advice

I think one of the things I enjoy the most is making it just one level further than Ive survived before.
Suddenly things get tense and nerve-wracking again.
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Old March 26, 2012, 17:49   #7
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Yeah, it's important to have a goal for each character beyond just "win the game", because it's probably gonna be awhile before you achieve that one. Making it deeper is always good, as is killing a particularly challenging monster (especially the one that killed you last time!).

If you aren't aware already, there are also options that you can set during character creation by hitting the '=' key, which can change up how the game plays. For example, you can play with randomly-generated artifacts, or disable the town.
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Old March 27, 2012, 21:45   #8
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aaaand... I died again

Managed to get to level 17, and found a rather excellent sword and armour (half troll fighter).

Ran into a couple of magic users that kept summoning monsters, and mowing through them, untill a werewolf showed up. Having a bad cold, and not paying attention to how quickly the mob was whittling down my hit points.

So...death by not paying attention
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Old March 27, 2012, 23:57   #9
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Do you know how to post character dumps? Press Shift-C for character sheet, "f" to create a character dump (which is a simple text file that the game automatically generates, showing all the character information.) You can then upload a chardump to this very site using the "Submit your dump!" link at the bottom of any chardump. Alternately, you can copy paste the text into a thread. The idea is that people can give you good advice if you have a chardump

For example, I'm curious about the sword and armor you refer to.

I understand you don't like spoilers, so I'll avoid them, but in general it's good for warriors to purchase quite a few Scrolls of Phase Door from the Alchemist ("5" in town). They're good for getting out of tight spots. A lot of Angband is about avoidance and escaping. Good luck!

Edit: Also, there's the business of fighting in doorways/corridors if you're afraid of being overwhelmed. Despite that Angband is turned-based, it's surprisingly easy to lose your cool and make bad decisions in the heat of the moment. (It's funny how that works!) Sometimes you'll find yourself button-mashing in the most dangerous situations when you can least afford it. So keep your common sense about you --- fight one-on-one in hallways, don't go biting off more than you can chew, and have an exit strategy at all times. If you keep the fundamentals in mind you'll soon surpass your expectations!

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Old March 28, 2012, 02:16   #10
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yeah, I hear ya
The stupid thing is... I had multiple phase door scrolls, and some other gadgets. I had deliberately stashed and carried "escape" items to avoid such a situation.


Is it possible to do the character dump for a previous, dead character?

Appreciate all the help!


edit: The sword was a sword of "westernesse". It probably wasn't like an epic artifact or anything, but it was the best I had come across so far. Pretty decent bonuses, some small stat boosts and extra damage against orcs and trolls. I think it also let me see invisible and protected from paralysis.
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