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Old October 8, 2012, 15:29   #1
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Sil throne room and escape? videos

Hi gang. This will be a permanent placeholder for the video of my certain demise on the ascent. But, for the time being, this was how I tackled the throne room.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2SsXu9MMM8&feature=plcp

This is an all three challenges character (disc. stairs/ironman stair/no artys)
An artistry start, but with heavy armor use and slightly more protection.

I'm glad I didn't video the entire thing, because it was boring. Clearing each floor isn't terribly difficult and I get enough xp and gear and items to make each next floor very approachable. If you are trying ironman, just make sure your perception doesn't get neglected so you miss the trap floors. If I die in 10 steps on the next video, well, at least the throne room video might amuse.
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Old October 9, 2012, 13:23   #2
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The ascent is here. Youtube said my video was too long, and perhaps I changed my recording settings because this video isn't nearly as sharp. I'm new to recording, so I'll just chalk it up to my noobness.

Part2
http://vimeo.com/51036239
It's about 40 minutes.

I went ahead and put part1 on vimeo as well.
Part1
http://vimeo.com/51035127

That wraps up the videos for this character. They were fun to make. I might try to do a character from start to finish at some point... maybe my all three challenges plus no abilities challenge. It might be doable for my builds now that trance behaves differently and the ego swords usually slay two things, which would help with light and inventory problems.
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Old October 9, 2012, 15:41   #3
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FYI all you have to do in order to upload videos of arbitrary length to YouTube is verify your account. IIRC this just involves letting them text you and then typing in a code into webform somewhere.

Just in case you were wondering

I'm going to watch these during lunch!
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Ah, thanks Debo! However, I don't have a cell. Can you believe it?! I begrudgingly put a few minutes on a pay-as-you-go-phone for emergencies if I'm travelling long distances and leave it turned off. The $15 I spent on minutes umpteen years ago would still be good if they didn't have arbitrary expiration dates.
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You might be able to convince a friend to let you use theirs, provided they trust that you won't start uploading leaked movies and get them sued. (As far as I can tell, that's the reason for requiring the cell phone)

Otherwise, you're stuck to the 15 minute limit.
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Haha the throne room video was awesome! I love how you didn't even pay attention to what you were fighting. Did you seriously cuisinart Gorthaur without even noticing?!

What happens if any of the big dragons or Ungoliant show up to the party?
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Yep! I focus mainly on my hitpoints and rarely even read the messages that are on top of the screen. I'm usually really careful on the ascent, but the throne room is for squinting, killing, and praying... relying on the adage that what you don't know can't hurt you.

I really should have taken crowd control... that approach really works best when you have a weapon that is nearer to 10 lbs, so you knock back everything.

Ungoliant did indeed polish off one of my throne room characters that did this. I don't often see the big dragons walk up... in fact, I don't recall ever seeing a dragon, but my memory is suspect. It is usually a bajillion big trolls, some vampires, the odd super-annoying green H, and Thuringwethil/Gorthaur being the two most common uniques I see. They don't really give me much problems... but if Glaurung had shown up... ick. Trance would = death, and fire breath, even double resisted, would hurt.
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Nice, doing the throne room like that (and with wrath too) is quite stylish. For warriors I don't have a definite strategy, most often I prefer the corridors to the NW, though after Morgoth entombed me over there with him, I've tried staying at the stairs and going to the NE too.

The dragons tend to be in spots you won't see them unless you actually venture far into the map, so yeah you tend to not have to deal with them thankfully.

The challenges are pretty fun. Makes the game feel quite different, to me at least.
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That was a fine show of ascending right there----nicely done!
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Great work HM! You might have had less trouble than last time, but there were some tense moments there: I'm glad the game is creating them.

A few comments:

* We never explicitly fixed the bug of Morgoth sometimes not being in the throne room -- we couldn't replicate it. So saving a copy still sounds sensible.

* Your becoming afraid while enraged was a bug -- that should make you immune to fear.

* Durations for rage, potion of dexterity, quickness etc. have a random duration (some number of d4 turns). If you take one while under the influence of a previous one, a new duration is rolled and you get that instead if it is greater than the old one, so it can never hurt, but it is not as useful as adding together.

* I apologise for Morgoth's bad door-opening skills. I hadn't known how bad that could be and will have to do something about that!

* You probably should have been a bit more afraid of fire attacks which could burn your staff of revelations. I'd have also put all the recharging charges into the staff of revelations straight away, since you had two staves whose destruction could have annoyed you, and could reduce this to one. It would be a different story if it were two staves of revelations, in which case I'd probably have split the charges between them and kept both.

Anyway, great work, and a nice escape. I'll think about the win-screen picture too -- the current one is just a left-over from Angband.
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