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Old May 19, 2014, 16:17   #21
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I thought of something similar - sense life. There is even a low-level spell for that in Faangband, available to rangers.
I like this one, though Timo's is perhaps more thematically correct.
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Old May 22, 2014, 11:14   #22
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Dunadan rangers... *drool* I wish I could win...

And on topic, how many ranger winners are from before 3.5.0, which made VERY substantial changes to the class, and how many are from after that?
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Old May 22, 2014, 12:29   #23
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Dunadan rangers... *drool* I wish I could win...

And on topic, how many ranger winners are from before 3.5.0, which made VERY substantial changes to the class, and how many are from after that?
What has changed? To me ranger looks just like before.
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Old May 22, 2014, 12:50   #24
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In older versions, a ranger cast like a cleric, mostly cure spells. Now, it casts arcane magic, e.g. magic missile.
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Old May 22, 2014, 14:55   #25
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In older versions, a ranger cast like a cleric, mostly cure spells. Now, it casts arcane magic, e.g. magic missile.
...what. No. Rangers have used arcane magic since the first version of the game, where they were ridiculous munchkins. It's true that they're currently the only class that casts arcane magic and can also cast Cure Light Wounds, but rangers have never had access to anything even remotely resembling the priestly spell set.
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Old May 22, 2014, 18:08   #26
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In older versions, a ranger cast like a cleric, mostly cure spells. Now, it casts arcane magic, e.g. magic missile.
Rangers have always been arcane casters. Maybe you think paladin?
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Old May 23, 2014, 00:51   #27
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This thread is very cool. I would be curious to see how this would look for (say) Hengband. Simply because of how many races and classes there are, there must be some that nobody has posted a win with.

Re: elves, I think the Wood Elves approach is the sensible one. Stealth, archery, and quicker leveling than High Elves.
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Old May 23, 2014, 03:18   #28
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Rangers have always used the mages spell set, from moria, to old angband to current, certain variants like Oangband use a druid subset of spells however, but Timo is right Paladins have always used the priest spell set.
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Old May 23, 2014, 22:28   #29
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You could just re-name Elf Yeek since they're already so weak. In which case you could re-name High-Elf to plain Elf, since all the elves were basically superior to man (immortal, no disease, strong, graceful, ...)

Half-elf should just be dropped or replaced with a different race. They're a very non-Tolkienish race (all the Tolkien half-elves became either high-elf or dunadan types) and distinguish themselves by being a cross between a weak race and the boring race.
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