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Old October 5, 2011, 21:11   #1
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Speed vs. Immunity

I havn't played Angband since the mid-ninties, but started again when 3.3 was released. This version is truly enjoyable to play, great thanks to all developers. Ok, the mid-game may be a little too easy, but I can live with that.

Anyway, I have a question about the importance of immunity. My current character has found Eönwë and Ringil as well as Stormwalker and BoS +10:
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I do use Eönwë since it protects potions and switched to Stormwalker when I found them (very recently), but how important is immunity and especially lightning immunity? I have lost a few rods of teleport other, but it doesnt seem to happen often. Is the extra speed better?
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Old October 5, 2011, 21:15   #2
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You're at +29 speed with Stormwalker, which puts you into diminishing-returns territory. The extra 4 speed from the plain Boots of Speed aren't worth it compared to the sound resistance and electricity immunity.

I'd probably make the same call even if you were at only +10 speed though.
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Speaking about immunities, if I were you I'd take with me Azaghal as a swap. Its main use is taking down effortless red dragon and hydra pits, not protecting your house from a defective stove.
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Old October 5, 2011, 22:06   #4
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You're at +29 speed with Stormwalker, which puts you into diminishing-returns territory. The extra 4 speed from the plain Boots of Speed aren't worth it compared to the sound resistance and electricity immunity.

I'd probably make the same call even if you were at only +10 speed though.
Is the same true for Eönwë vs. Ringil?

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Speaking about immunities, if I were you I'd take with me Azaghal as a swap. Its main use is taking down effortless red dragon and hydra pits, not protecting your house from a defective stove.
That is the reason why I kept Azaghal. However, I am too impatient to swap weapons, so I never brought it along.
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Old October 5, 2011, 22:20   #5
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You're at +29 speed with Stormwalker, which puts you into diminishing-returns territory. The extra 4 speed from the plain Boots of Speed aren't worth it compared to the sound resistance and electricity immunity.

I'd probably make the same call even if you were at only +10 speed though.
I wouldn't. Immunity works as swap, but speed saves you from all kinds of trouble, including getting hit by whatever immunity would have protected you. +29 vs +33 is not worth it though. Same with Eonwe and Ringil (immunity alone is nowhere near as powerful as +10 speed from Ringil, and Ringil is slightly better at damage than Eonwe even not counting the speed in the equation).
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Mm, partially the immunity and partially the sound resistance, though does sound resistance protect you from plasma stunning now? Maybe I'm overvaluing sound resistance. Oh well...
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