Balance issues in current V. - Page 4

gameplay appreciator · July 7, 2017, 23:10

Yes, my proposed solution is to give ESP in place of detect monster. There would be no real difference between giving ESP to any character with experience level high enough to learn detect monster and the way things work currently. Similarly, there would be no difference between some kind of ESP evil only and detect evil. Yes, theoretically it is a sop to lazy players who just want to have fun rather than hitting their detection button every ten turns and using their noggin to figure out where the monsters are between casts, but I think it would be okay.

I don't know what to make of a claim to the authority of being among the best players in the world, while also claiming to frequently die while having detection and resting. Amazing to me.

Also, I can't speak for anyone else, but I do, in fact, sometimes use detection during the Morgoth fight. Why the hell wouldn't you?

wobbly · July 7, 2017, 23:30

Well ok you've convinced me. Permanent halved speed with a continuous 1sp mana drain is the best way to play. Anything else would just be lazy.

debo · July 8, 2017, 00:32

I think it's time to change this thread title to "dick-swinging issues in current V."

clouded · July 8, 2017, 01:42

Who else is glad that mushroom patch has come back to save Angband?

Nick · July 8, 2017, 02:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by clouded

Who else is glad that mushroom patch has come back to save Angband?

Thanks, my memory was failing me

debo · July 8, 2017, 02:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick

Thanks, my memory was failing me

Perfect opportunity for a memory moss joke, lost

nikheizen · July 8, 2017, 09:43

Honestly, it would be kinda cool to have Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup on top of a non-shit codebase like Vanilla Angband.

Philip · July 8, 2017, 10:29

I would like to note that the current Comp character is a mage, and if you want to conserve turns, whether it's to avoid spawns or in an attempt to do well at the Comp, you end up rationing 1 mana for a while, let alone the 6 that actual detect monsters costs. It's a non-trivial expenditure, especially if you ever want to use your mana for something other than detection (though to be fair, there isn't necessarily a good reason to, since devices are pretty powerful and Recharge is a thing).

July 7, 2017, 23:10	#31
gameplay appreciator Rookie Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 24	Yes, my proposed solution is to give ESP in place of detect monster. There would be no real difference between giving ESP to any character with experience level high enough to learn detect monster and the way things work currently. Similarly, there would be no difference between some kind of ESP evil only and detect evil. Yes, theoretically it is a sop to lazy players who just want to have fun rather than hitting their detection button every ten turns and using their noggin to figure out where the monsters are between casts, but I think it would be okay. I don't know what to make of a claim to the authority of being among the best players in the world, while also claiming to frequently die while having detection and resting. Amazing to me. Also, I can't speak for anyone else, but I do, in fact, sometimes use detection during the Morgoth fight. Why the hell wouldn't you? Last edited by gameplay appreciator; July 7, 2017 at 23:22.

July 8, 2017, 00:32	#33
debo Veteran Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 2,318	I think it's time to change this thread title to "dick-swinging issues in current V." __________________ Glaurung, Father of the Dragons says, 'You cannot avoid the ballyhack.'

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July 7, 2017, 23:30	#32
wobbly Veteran Join Date: May 2012 Location: Adelaide, Australia Posts: 1,061	Well ok you've convinced me. Permanent halved speed with a continuous 1sp mana drain is the best way to play. Anything else would just be lazy.

July 8, 2017, 01:42	#34
clouded Adept Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 198	Who else is glad that mushroom patch has come back to save Angband?

July 8, 2017, 09:43	#37
nikheizen Adept Join Date: Jul 2015 Posts: 118	Honestly, it would be kinda cool to have Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup on top of a non-shit codebase like Vanilla Angband.

July 8, 2017, 10:29	#38
Philip Knight Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Prague,Czech Republic Posts: 717	I would like to note that the current Comp character is a mage, and if you want to conserve turns, whether it's to avoid spawns or in an attempt to do well at the Comp, you end up rationing 1 mana for a while, let alone the 6 that actual detect monsters costs. It's a non-trivial expenditure, especially if you ever want to use your mana for something other than detection (though to be fair, there isn't necessarily a good reason to, since devices are pretty powerful and Recharge is a thing).

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