I'm so dead..

TubbyNinja · November 11, 2016, 18:52

So I just started a character today and found Dethanc as a level 4 on DL 2 with only 1800 moves under my belt. I've just found the Phial of Galadriel as a level 16 on DL 13. I know an insta death is right around the corner..

Pete Mack · November 11, 2016, 19:00

Those are nice. Speed boots are nicer.

AnonymousHero · November 11, 2016, 19:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete Mack

Those are nice. Speed boots are nicer.

Show-off!

Derakon · November 11, 2016, 20:08

You know, it used to be an unusual game that you didn't find the Phial just sitting around by 500' at worst, and usually by 300'. This would have been back in the 2.8x days, IIRC.

The 'thancs are a different story, not so much because their rarity changed but because they're much more powerful now than they used to be.

bio_hazard · November 11, 2016, 22:48

I remember more or less stair-scumming for the phial when I first started playing.

Pete Mack · November 12, 2016, 00:17

When the detection radius was arbitrarily large, and detect objects wasn't just a rogue spell, it was a lot easier to find wheat among the chaff. I suspect the creation rate is roughly the same, but the discovery rate is significantly lower.

bio_hazard · November 12, 2016, 00:32

"You have a special feeling about this level" or something like that- there used to be a level feeling specifically for artifacts. When you were around 3-500 feet, that was pretty much the only artifact you were likely to find. So you enter a level, get the level feeling, rest for 200 turns or whatever it took, then go back up the stairs. Repeat. If you got the feeling, search the whole level.

If the level feeling didn't trigger after a few tries, skip to step 2: get ready to save-scum Wormtongue for that gold dragon scale mail or Glaive of Pain.

Pete Mack · November 12, 2016, 01:54

There still is that feeling if you have preserve mode off.

Sphara · November 12, 2016, 08:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by bio_hazard

If the level feeling didn't trigger after a few tries, skip to step 2: get ready to save-scum Wormtongue for that gold dragon scale mail or Glaive of Pain.

Back in the 90's, did you ever step on an trap door after Wormtongue's death while having the Phial and an unknown rapier he dropped on sight?

About that special feeling, I do not remember ever finding other artifact on early levels but the Phial. "Special" message was always, "ah, the Phial" for me.

Derakon · November 12, 2016, 15:24

Special level feelings also triggered for jelly pits. Just putting that out there.

November 11, 2016, 18:52	#1
TubbyNinja Rookie Join Date: Nov 2016 Posts: 3	I'm so dead.. So I just started a character today and found Dethanc as a level 4 on DL 2 with only 1800 moves under my belt. I've just found the Phial of Galadriel as a level 16 on DL 13. I know an insta death is right around the corner..

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Pete Mack Prophet Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 4,597 Donated: $40	Those are nice. Speed boots are nicer.

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Derakon Prophet Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 8,313	You know, it used to be an unusual game that you didn't find the Phial just sitting around by 500' at worst, and usually by 300'. This would have been back in the 2.8x days, IIRC. The 'thancs are a different story, not so much because their rarity changed but because they're much more powerful now than they used to be.

November 11, 2016, 22:48	#5
bio_hazard Knight Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 581	I remember more or less stair-scumming for the phial when I first started playing.

November 12, 2016, 00:17	#6
Pete Mack Prophet Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 4,597 Donated: $40	When the detection radius was arbitrarily large, and detect objects wasn't just a rogue spell, it was a lot easier to find wheat among the chaff. I suspect the creation rate is roughly the same, but the discovery rate is significantly lower.

November 12, 2016, 00:32	#7
bio_hazard Knight Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 581	"You have a special feeling about this level" or something like that- there used to be a level feeling specifically for artifacts. When you were around 3-500 feet, that was pretty much the only artifact you were likely to find. So you enter a level, get the level feeling, rest for 200 turns or whatever it took, then go back up the stairs. Repeat. If you got the feeling, search the whole level. If the level feeling didn't trigger after a few tries, skip to step 2: get ready to save-scum Wormtongue for that gold dragon scale mail or Glaive of Pain.

November 12, 2016, 01:54	#8
Pete Mack Prophet Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 4,597 Donated: $40	There still is that feeling if you have preserve mode off.

November 12, 2016, 15:24	#10
Derakon Prophet Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 8,313	Special level feelings also triggered for jelly pits. Just putting that out there.

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