Ikke made it!

[desstorm]

Ikke (try 14 or 15; most died before statgain) The dwarven priest took me some time to finish. Midgame was a blast of fun. But I didnt like the endgame very much. It felt like a warrior with awful lots of heals and runes. and banish evil.

Tried morgoth @lvl 43 without succes with only orbs. Didn't make it with a stack 19 restore mana potions and about 15 *Heals*. So it didn't feel very 'priestly' to bang his head in the end with a mace of disruption.

It lasted until lvl 49 to find a weapon at last that did some endgame-worthy-damage. I decided to take out all uniques and almost completed that mission when I found The One Ring. Second winner-game in a row to find it *flex*.

http://angband.oook.cz/ladder-show.php?id=17737

time for a new challange. Any recommendations?

== WINNERS ==
Ik - Dunadan Ranger
Ikk - HalfTroll Warrior
Ikke - Dwarven Priest

[Timo Pietilä]

Originally Posted by desstorm

time for a new challange. Any recommendations?

== WINNERS ==
Ik - Dunadan Ranger
Ikk - HalfTroll Warrior
Ikke - Dwarven Priest

Hobbit rogue. Looks like you haven't tried stealthy char yet. Dunadan ranger isn't bad for stealth, but not that great either.

Hobbits also have lower hit die so you need to pick your fights more carefully at early game. CON bonus helps with that, so that pretty soon it doesn't matter that much.

[Derakon]

Originally Posted by Timo Pietilä

Hobbit rogue. Looks like you haven't tried stealthy char yet. Dunadan ranger isn't bad for stealth, but not that great either.

Hobbits also have lower hit die so you need to pick your fights more carefully at early game. CON bonus helps with that, so that pretty soon it doesn't matter that much.

I agree with the rogue, but make it a kobold instead of a hobbit; similar frailty, less-good stats.

[Timo Pietilä]

Originally Posted by Derakon

I agree with the rogue, but make it a kobold instead of a hobbit; similar frailty, less-good stats.

What is a kobold and how does it fit into tolkien world? I hated those when they were introduced and I still hate them, mostly because IMO they do not belong to angband.

There are plenty of creatures to choose in place of kobold. Maybe replace kobold with Avari (and high-elves with Vanyar and elves with Teleri...we could have Noldor there somewhere too, but that makes too many elves in general).

[AnonymousHero]

Originally Posted by Timo Pietilä

What is a kobold and how does it fit into tolkien world? I hated those when they were introduced and I still hate them, mostly because IMO they do not belong to angband.

There are plenty of creatures to choose in place of kobold. Maybe replace kobold with Avari (and high-elves with Vanyar and elves with Teleri...we could have Noldor there somewhere too, but that makes too many elves in general).

I don't recall Cantoras, The Tarrasque, etc. being in Tolkien's world either, yet there they are. I don't think the Argument From Tolkien works when discussing Angband.

[Ingwe Ingweron]

Originally Posted by AnonymousHero

I don't recall Cantoras, The Tarrasque, etc. being in Tolkien's world either, yet there they are. I don't think the Argument From Tolkien works when discussing Angband.

Not to mention yeeks, Phoenix, Vargo, Vecna, and a large number of other monsters. Besides, kobolds, in my mind are tiny orcs. Even Tolkien was inconsistent. There are no "Orcs" in The Hobbit. There are "Goblins". By the time of writing The Lord of the Rings, all references to "goblins" disappeared and were replaced with "orcs".

[wobbly]

Originally Posted by Ingwe Ingweron

Besides, kobolds, in my mind are tiny orcs.

I'm stuck thinking of them as doglike humanoids from D&D but:

From Wikipedia:

The kobold (occasionally cobold) is a sprite stemming from Germanic mythology and surviving into modern times in German folklore. Although usually invisible, a kobold can materialize in the form of an animal, fire, a human being, and a candle. The most common depictions of kobolds show them as humanlike figures the size of small children. Kobolds who live in human homes wear the clothing of peasants; those who live in mines are hunched and ugly; and kobolds who live on ships smoke pipes and wear sailor clothing.

[desstorm]

http://angband.oook.cz/ladder-show.php?id=17741

First suggestion wins I'm not overly fond of ugly kobolds either, so a hobbit Rogue.

I except lots of deaths before statgain.

[Timo Pietilä]

Originally Posted by AnonymousHero

I don't recall Cantoras, The Tarrasque, etc. being in Tolkien's world either, yet there they are. I don't think the Argument From Tolkien works when discussing Angband.

All player races are more or less tolkenian, with exception of kobold.

Even half-troll does exist:

"...out of Far Harad black men like half-trolls with white eyes and red tongues."
The Return of the King V 6
The Battle of the Pelennor Fields



http://www.glyphweb.com/arda/h/halftrolls.html

[Carnivean]

Originally Posted by Timo Pietilä

All player races are more or less tolkenian, with exception of kobold.

Even half-troll does exist:

"...out of Far Harad black men like half-trolls with white eyes and red tongues."
The Return of the King V 6
The Battle of the Pelennor Fields



http://www.glyphweb.com/arda/h/halftrolls.html

That quote says they are black men, not half-trolls. Like =/= is. The use of the phrase "like half-trolls" is to signify that although they are men, they bear aspects of trolls.