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Old August 10, 2018, 21:47   #11
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You will by the way want to switch to Silence when you are actually attacking the crown. Be very careful about trying to get more than one Sil with Morgoth next to the crown. I have managed to get three with a pacifist but lured Morgoth away with a horn to do so.

You may still wake him up. If that happens you need to get out of his way fast relying on Quickness and dodge behind a pillar to reduce his alertness.

Good luck from me also.
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Old August 10, 2018, 21:50   #12
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Oh, and learn from mistakes I have made

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Old August 10, 2018, 22:07   #13
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Weird, I'm actually next to him and still no crown, possibly a bug?
Maybe because I'm playing 1.3?

I've got messages telling me that monsters are reluctant hitting me and that there is a strange 'tension'
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Old August 11, 2018, 03:22   #14
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Weird, I'm actually next to him and still no crown, possibly a bug?
Maybe because I'm playing 1.3?

I've got messages telling me that monsters are reluctant hitting me and that there is a strange 'tension'
Have you seen a message to the effect that his crown has fallen off? If not you won't find it on the floor.
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Old August 11, 2018, 10:06   #15
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No, I got no messages mentioning the crown, but I’m singing around him and he is asleep
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Old August 11, 2018, 11:26   #16
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Distance weakens the song. You'll probably have to risk being adjacent to him. So you sleep him from a distance and the crown "slips" but is still on. Sing silence and move next to him. Sing lorien while stationary till the crown "falls off". Use !grace if you need to. I'd be at full buff if I had the spare consumables, I'm unsure what you have. Good luck, I'm sure it's tense being stuck where you are.

I'm at work so I wont be around much, hopefully Quirk will drop by if I don't.
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Old August 11, 2018, 11:34   #17
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You should have seen the message about the crown slipping at least in your message history. Can you see the one about Morgoth falling asleep?
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Old August 11, 2018, 11:53   #18
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In fact, I could ‘see’ Morgoth w/ the listen ability and he was unwary, but when I really saw him he was already asleep, so I didnt get any message, no message telling me that morgoth fell asleep and no message mentioning the crown.
I already tried being adjacent but still nothing.
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Old August 11, 2018, 13:17   #19
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Trying to replicate this in wizard mode and I think I may have found some kind of bug. Can confirm it affects original Sil, haven't tested Sil-Q yet.

How much Will does Morgoth have at the moment? You have Lore Master right?

His will is increased when the crown drops. 20 is his base, 25 is what it should look after the drop. I'm looking at him in a game with 35. This is consistent after a reload. That is buggy.

I don't know if it's the same bug - my Morgoth is awake. Good news is that taking him from awake to asleep again makes him drop the crown.
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Old August 11, 2018, 13:25   #20
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Actually he has 20 Will

Is there a way to make him unwary then asleep again?
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