deep descent from town is weird

saarn · April 29, 2012, 19:36

I vaguely recall when deep descent was first introduced, if you used it from town you'd go some number of levels deeper than your previous depth. Now it just takes you to DLVL 5 all the time. This is kind of annoying when you identify by use in town.

fizzix · April 29, 2012, 20:51

Thanks for pointing this out. This is indeed bad, and should probably be changed. However, I'm not sure what the best behavior is.

Should it bring you to maxdepth+5 regardless of where you read it? Should it drop you by 5 levels, except in town where it'll act as a word of recall? Should act like a word of recall + 5 in town? Should it not work at all in town?

Edit: I have a branch which goes like max_depth + 5 regardless of where it's read. I'll push to master and v4-master tomorrow unless there's good reason not to.

saarn · April 29, 2012, 21:18

I don't have a strong opinion on the right behavior in the dungeon, though I think your proposed interpretation is probably better.

d_m · April 29, 2012, 21:35

I've always felt that it should take you to MAX + 5 no matter where you read it.

DaviddesJ · June 5, 2013, 01:14

OK, I just discovered this behavior. The description still says, "When read, it teleports you two levels down," which is very misleading. It would be nice to keep the description in sync with the effects.

OOD Town drunk · June 5, 2013, 16:31

I vote => "MAX+5 from anywhere"

strato · April 5, 2015, 22:13

How about if there is a game option to choose from max_depth + 5 or the way they work in 3.5?

Bill Peterson · June 30, 2015, 17:43

How about making it a little more exciting - max_depth + rand(10)

MattB · June 30, 2015, 17:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Peterson

How about making it a little more exciting - max_depth + rand(10)

I agree with this idea (for vanilla).

Out of interest, are you playing the experimental variant called 'v4', or the current release of Vanilla Angband 'v4.0'?

Bill Peterson · July 2, 2015, 15:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattB

I agree with this idea (for vanilla).

Out of interest, are you playing the experimental variant called 'v4', or the current release of Vanilla Angband 'v4.0'?

I'm mostly inactive at the moment but will play the latest V4 release when I resume. I was just responding here based on philosophy rather than any recent gameplay.

April 29, 2012, 19:36	#1
saarn Adept Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 112	deep descent from town is weird I vaguely recall when deep descent was first introduced, if you used it from town you'd go some number of levels deeper than your previous depth. Now it just takes you to DLVL 5 all the time. This is kind of annoying when you identify by use in town.

April 29, 2012, 20:51	#2
fizzix Prophet Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Madison, Wisconsin, US Posts: 3,025	Thanks for pointing this out. This is indeed bad, and should probably be changed. However, I'm not sure what the best behavior is. Should it bring you to maxdepth+5 regardless of where you read it? Should it drop you by 5 levels, except in town where it'll act as a word of recall? Should act like a word of recall + 5 in town? Should it not work at all in town? Edit: I have a branch which goes like max_depth + 5 regardless of where it's read. I'll push to master and v4-master tomorrow unless there's good reason not to. Last edited by fizzix; April 29, 2012 at 21:14.

April 29, 2012, 21:35	#4
d_m Angband Devteam member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Philadelphia, PA, USA Age: 41 Posts: 1,516	I've always felt that it should take you to MAX + 5 no matter where you read it. __________________ linux->xterm->screen->pmacs

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DaviddesJ Swordsman Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Burlingame CA Age: 58 Posts: 254	OK, I just discovered this behavior. The description still says, "When read, it teleports you two levels down," which is very misleading. It would be nice to keep the description in sync with the effects. Last edited by DaviddesJ; June 5, 2013 at 02:08.

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April 29, 2012, 21:18	#3
saarn Adept Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 112	I don't have a strong opinion on the right behavior in the dungeon, though I think your proposed interpretation is probably better.

June 5, 2013, 16:31	#6
OOD Town drunk Adept Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Washington state Age: 38 Posts: 171	I vote => "MAX+5 from anywhere"

April 5, 2015, 22:13	#7
strato Rookie Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 11	How about if there is a game option to choose from max_depth + 5 or the way they work in 3.5?

June 30, 2015, 17:43	#8
Bill Peterson Adept Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Flyover country Posts: 158	How about making it a little more exciting - max_depth + rand(10)

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