Frot (HT Paladin) DAR - Page 2

Pete Mack · February 13, 2017, 04:05

@Grotug
That's the 4.0 behavior. Paralysis was cumulative in 3.0, and thus unsurvivable.

chknflyrice · February 13, 2017, 04:52

Had an experience like that recently with an AMH dragon. TO him out of a vault and played hide and seek the rest of the level. I just happened to pick up a ring of res poison right before I stepped into a hallway and caught poison breath from out of my sight range. Seeing that green ball come down the hallway actually made me jump. 17 health left I read a teleport level and hoped I didn't get dropped into some nonsense room with some hounds in it. Turned out alright.

chknflyrice · February 13, 2017, 04:55

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Originally Posted by Pete Mack

@Grotug
That's the 4.0 behavior. Paralysis was cumulative in 3.0, and thus unsurvivable.

I remember dying ALOT when I was a kid to paralysis very early in the game.

Speaking of which.... Frot needs some free action soon or I'm in trouble. I'm kinda stuck trolling around (ha

) around DL 20 because its refusing to give me some.

PowerDiver · February 13, 2017, 05:36

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Originally Posted by chknflyrice

Speaking of which.... Frot needs some free action soon or I'm in trouble. I'm kinda stuck trolling around (ha

) around DL 20 because its refusing to give me some.

That's entirely the wrong attitude. Keep going down, and just be careful. The FA items start to come more commonly at DL25 and much more commonly at DL30.

Waiting around at DL20 waiting for FA is precisely the kind of advice the old "strategy guides" used to suggest, but they were 100% wrong. Just detect evil and stay far away from ghouls.

chknflyrice · February 13, 2017, 06:10

Normally that would be the route that I take but lacking any substantial damage I'm not feeling the risk of diving deeper. We'll see, if within a reasonable time I cant find either free action or some kind of real damage/armor I might risk going deeper. Still working with no ego items other than a HLA with resist acid on it and a (+3 +3) spear. Hoping that the floodgates open soon and I will get something with a brand and those boots/gloves I need will drop.

PowerDiver · February 13, 2017, 06:17

Grinding is usually a terrible strategy. If you die and restart, you might still find FA faster IRL than grinding at DL20. When you factor in deaths due to inattention, it's my oipinion that grinding always loses.

However, as you can tell from my chosen moniker, I am ever so slightly biased. Doesn't mean I am wrong ...

Grotug · February 13, 2017, 10:05

The idea of diving used to terrify me. But now I adopt the attitude of PowerDiver. If I *do* get punished diving, it was fun and I'll be back to DL30 in no time; less time invested, more fun (it's exciting being ooD!), and no grinding. Also, the more @s I kill off, the less attached I get to each @ and the cool ooD gear it's found early on. Your DAR thread is likely to be more interesting, too, if you dive.

Pete Mack · February 13, 2017, 14:23

Trolling level 20 because of free action isn't a really good reason. Trolling because you can't kill anything with a +3 spear is somewhat better. But that's likely to change at any moment--even the armorsmith sells better stuff. One of those weak damage rings with -AC would help there. So would magic devices, even a wand of wonder.

chknflyrice · February 13, 2017, 17:23

I'm going to take your advise and just start over. Drops weren't happening and it was getting frustrating. The proverbial "straw" was a 2-6 feeling after 45 minutes of ensuring that I didn't miss anything finally found a small room with some treasure in it. All it yielded was some arrows of slay animal....

On another note my ongoing HT warrior just found a lone nexus hound that just switched my INT and DEX. So now I have a genius HT that just lost about 2 blows per round lmao. Its ok finding plenty of stat potions around this level so well be back in the game here pretty soon.

Derakon · February 13, 2017, 17:33

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Originally Posted by chknflyrice

On another note my ongoing HT warrior just found a lone nexus hound that just switched my INT and DEX. So now I have a genius HT that just lost about 2 blows per round lmao. Its ok finding plenty of stat potions around this level so well be back in the game here pretty soon.

I'm pretty sure that if you play the nightlies, then nexus breath will instead swap all of your stats around, but only temporarily. I say "pretty sure" because Nick incorporated my pull request that implements that feature, but that was months ago and I haven't been playing much lately.

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February 13, 2017, 04:05	#11
Pete Mack Prophet Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 4,454 Donated: $40	@Grotug That's the 4.0 behavior. Paralysis was cumulative in 3.0, and thus unsurvivable.

February 13, 2017, 04:52	#12
chknflyrice Adept Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: U.S.ofA. Posts: 109	Had an experience like that recently with an AMH dragon. TO him out of a vault and played hide and seek the rest of the level. I just happened to pick up a ring of res poison right before I stepped into a hallway and caught poison breath from out of my sight range. Seeing that green ball come down the hallway actually made me jump. 17 health left I read a teleport level and hoped I didn't get dropped into some nonsense room with some hounds in it. Turned out alright.

February 13, 2017, 06:10	#15
chknflyrice Adept Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: U.S.ofA. Posts: 109	Normally that would be the route that I take but lacking any substantial damage I'm not feeling the risk of diving deeper. We'll see, if within a reasonable time I cant find either free action or some kind of real damage/armor I might risk going deeper. Still working with no ego items other than a HLA with resist acid on it and a (+3 +3) spear. Hoping that the floodgates open soon and I will get something with a brand and those boots/gloves I need will drop.

February 13, 2017, 06:17	#16
PowerDiver Prophet Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 2,712	Grinding is usually a terrible strategy. If you die and restart, you might still find FA faster IRL than grinding at DL20. When you factor in deaths due to inattention, it's my oipinion that grinding always loses. However, as you can tell from my chosen moniker, I am ever so slightly biased. Doesn't mean I am wrong ...

February 13, 2017, 10:05	#17
Grotug Knight Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 812	The idea of diving used to terrify me. But now I adopt the attitude of PowerDiver. If I do get punished diving, it was fun and I'll be back to DL30 in no time; less time invested, more fun (it's exciting being ooD!), and no grinding. Also, the more @s I kill off, the less attached I get to each @ and the cool ooD gear it's found early on. Your DAR thread is likely to be more interesting, too, if you dive.

February 13, 2017, 14:23	#18
Pete Mack Prophet Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 4,454 Donated: $40	Trolling level 20 because of free action isn't a really good reason. Trolling because you can't kill anything with a +3 spear is somewhat better. But that's likely to change at any moment--even the armorsmith sells better stuff. One of those weak damage rings with -AC would help there. So would magic devices, even a wand of wonder.

February 13, 2017, 17:23	#19
chknflyrice Adept Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: U.S.ofA. Posts: 109	I'm going to take your advise and just start over. Drops weren't happening and it was getting frustrating. The proverbial "straw" was a 2-6 feeling after 45 minutes of ensuring that I didn't miss anything finally found a small room with some treasure in it. All it yielded was some arrows of slay animal.... On another note my ongoing HT warrior just found a lone nexus hound that just switched my INT and DEX. So now I have a genius HT that just lost about 2 blows per round lmao. Its ok finding plenty of stat potions around this level so well be back in the game here pretty soon.

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