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Old July 22, 2019, 22:35   #261
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Something has gone odd with the rune.id system. Even with the "know runes" birth option on, Boots of Wormtongue have a {??} in its title indicating unknown runes.
Hm. Will check.

EDIT: Actually, savefile would be handy if you can.
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Old July 22, 2019, 23:09   #262
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Hm. Will check.

EDIT: Actually, savefile would be handy if you can.
Since it's on Angband.live, I guess you have access or Gwarl can get it for you. I've stored the oddity in the Home.
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Old July 23, 2019, 09:27   #263
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Something has gone odd with the rune.id system. Even with the "know runes" birth option on, Boots of Wormtongue have a {??} in its title indicating unknown runes.
Same with rune knowledge birth option off. Found a very early jackpot Amulet of Sustenance and it was already pre-identified but had {??}. As I started reading ID's on it, sustaining runes started to reveal. Haven't used ID on HoldLife yet and there in the pic, it appears ´half-identified'.
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Same with rune knowledge birth option off. Found a very early jackpot Amulet of Sustenance and it was already pre-identified but had {??}. As I started reading ID's on it, sustaining runes started to reveal. Haven't used ID on HoldLife yet and there in the pic, it appears ´half-identified'.
Could it be cursed?
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Could it be cursed?
Character was alive for over 10 000 turns (now dead) after wearing it and never noticed any effect, so VERY LIKELY no.

I had the same ghost identification with a Ring of the Dog. Fear resistance showed gray + in the ring slot but the sustenance amulet's pFear status was showing a question mark.
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Something has gone odd with the rune.id system. Even with the "know runes" birth option on, Boots of Wormtongue have a {??} in its title indicating unknown runes.
Whoa, I like the new "hidden" effect of these boots (re: effect on traps).

Is this deliberate? It isn't declared when playing with known runes.
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Whoa, I like the new "hidden" effect of these boots (re: effect on traps).

Is this deliberate? It isn't declared when playing with known runes.
It is deliberate, and that pretty much confirms that it's causing the problem.

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Same with rune knowledge birth option off. Found a very early jackpot Amulet of Sustenance and it was already pre-identified but had {??}. As I started reading ID's on it, sustaining runes started to reveal. Haven't used ID on HoldLife yet and there in the pic, it appears ´half-identified'.
Thanks, will chase his up too.
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It is deliberate, and that pretty much confirms that it's causing the problem.
Save file with boots attached, if it helps.

On a different note, theft works much better now - thank you, Nick! Mushrooms of Shadow seem a bit too rare (only found 1 in an entire run, and none seem to appear in mushroom rooms).
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Save file with boots attached, if it helps.

On a different note, theft works much better now - thank you, Nick! Mushrooms of Shadow seem a bit too rare (only found 1 in an entire run, and none seem to appear in mushroom rooms).
Thanks, but I've found and fixed the problem. I'll tweak the mushrooms a bit.
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Thought I was imagining it at first, but it's repeated enough times that it's for sure. Getting a lot of "run past" problems, where @ runs over $ but they aren't picked up. Also happens occasionally with objects such as ammo, etc.
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