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Old January 23, 2022, 17:46   #21
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Morgoth is Ainur--immune to everything but slay evil. (Sauron is Mayar, so I dont know why he is vulnerable to Acid.)
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Old January 23, 2022, 20:11   #22
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Morgoth is a Giant, but my *Slay Giant* does no extra damage on him.
IIRC Morgoth used to have the GIANT flag, which is why Slay Giant is relatively rare.
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Old January 23, 2022, 20:19   #23
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Maybe M needs his HP bumped to 25,000 and given the Giant flag again?
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Old January 23, 2022, 21:24   #24
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Maybe M needs his HP bumped to 25,000 and given the Giant flag again?
He really should have the giant flag IMO. Firstly, weapons of slay giant are rare, so it would make an interesting switch for the final fight. Secondly, he's massive so he's clearly a giant. Finally he is a P
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Old January 24, 2022, 13:14   #25
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Maybe M needs his HP bumped to 25,000 and given the Giant flag again?
He should also spawn shimmering vortexes with every movement.
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Old January 24, 2022, 18:14   #26
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Maybe M needs his HP bumped to 25,000 and given the Giant flag again?
Sounds good to me. IIRC in Frog Knows and very early versions he did have the Giant flag. I think his HP were only 17,000 though until he was boosted in V3.0.

On the subject of hitpoints, Sauron seems to have been nerfed considerably. He has less than some of the other uniques - perhaps bump him up to 12,000 or so?
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Old January 25, 2022, 09:26   #27
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Sounds good to me. IIRC in Frog Knows and very early versions he did have the Giant flag. I think his HP were only 17,000 though until he was boosted in V3.0.
Don't know about frog_knows, but at least since 2.7.9v6, he had 20,000 HP and no GIANT flag.
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Sauron has had fewer HP than Ungoliant for as long as I remember. He is still harder to kill, although I rarely bother with the big S.
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Old January 30, 2022, 08:34   #29
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He really should have the giant flag IMO. Firstly, weapons of slay giant are rare, so it would make an interesting switch for the final fight. Secondly, he's massive so he's clearly a giant. Finally he is a P
I'm perfectly happy with him not having the GIANT flag. Yes, he is BIG (in fact I often call him the BIG BOSS), but he is not of the Giant race. Not a drop of Giant blood in him.
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Old January 30, 2022, 10:31   #30
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Vanilla Angband's flags are no subject to change, imo. Morgoth certainly isn't a giant as a race. If anything besides 'P', he'd be an 'A'. But he certainly doesn't need _GIANT_ flag.
Only ones I could question, and that is really splitting hairs without any desire to change, are a nightcrawler being a snake instead of a worm and an etten being a troll instead of a giant.
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