Can you name this invisible beast?!

sffp · October 21, 2021, 18:22

Invisible - but not detectible to telepathy

You shock something. <3x>
You shock something. It was a great hit!
You shock something.
You shock something. It was a great hit!
You shock something. <5x>
You have killed it.

You double moved it as you have 6 hits a round.
Its armor rating clearly isn't that great, because you didn't miss.

But it has a fair number of HP, because you do 112 points per blow against creatures not resistant to lightning

My speed is +18 if that makes a difference.

Pete Mack · October 21, 2021, 19:12

Possibly a midlevel Q?
Edit: If you enabled verbose messages, it would "squlch" and "quiver in pain", and you'd know for sure. The other possibility is will'o'wisp, but you are unlikely to just run into one like that.

Estie · October 22, 2021, 01:48

Yes Q is the prime suspect. Will o wisp is electricity resistant (or should be).

Selkie · October 22, 2021, 10:22

My guess would be a lurker

Nick · October 22, 2021, 10:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Selkie

My guess would be a lurker

I was thinking that too, or trapper.

Werbaer · October 22, 2021, 11:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Selkie

My guess would be a lurker

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick

I was thinking that too, or trapper.

Trapper was my first thought, too. But that beast survived 11 hits for ~112 damage, so it must have twice the hit ponts.

Sphara · October 22, 2021, 11:46

99,9% certain lurker. You need to have more dmg/turn to two-shot a midgame Q or a trapper.

Thraalbee · October 22, 2021, 13:23

I doubt Lurker, too few hp. My monster viewer is a hack so cant say for 100% but I'd say it is a Q.
Using this: https://thraalbee.azurewebsites.net/monview/
And this in the filter field:

Code:

SQL# flags_effective LIKE "%EMPTY_MIND%" AND flags_effective LIKE "%INVISIBLE%"  and hit_points > 1000 and hit_points < 2000

results in three Q's, all native to dl 71.

Right now only the "Plot" option works, the "Tabulate" is broken (EDIT: fixed)

Nick · October 22, 2021, 13:29

More evidence: lurkers, and more so trappers, have decent AC, whereas Qs have almost none. So 12 blows in a row connecting favors a Q.

Grotug · October 22, 2021, 23:11

Aren't Q's detectable by infravision?

October 21, 2021, 18:22	#1
sffp Swordsman Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: DC Area Posts: 272	Can you name this invisible beast?! Invisible - but not detectible to telepathy You shock something. <3x> You shock something. It was a great hit! You shock something. You shock something. It was a great hit! You shock something. <5x> You have killed it. You double moved it as you have 6 hits a round. Its armor rating clearly isn't that great, because you didn't miss. But it has a fair number of HP, because you do 112 points per blow against creatures not resistant to lightning My speed is +18 if that makes a difference.

October 22, 2021, 13:23	#8
Thraalbee Knight Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Stockholm Posts: 682	I doubt Lurker, too few hp. My monster viewer is a hack so cant say for 100% but I'd say it is a Q. Using this: https://thraalbee.azurewebsites.net/monview/ And this in the filter field: Code: SQL# flags_effective LIKE "%EMPTY_MIND%" AND flags_effective LIKE "%INVISIBLE%" and hit_points > 1000 and hit_points < 2000 results in three Q's, all native to dl 71. Right now only the "Plot" option works, the "Tabulate" is broken (EDIT: fixed) Last edited by Thraalbee; October 22, 2021 at 16:13.

October 22, 2021, 13:29	#9
Nick Vanilla maintainer Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Canberra, Australia Age: 56 Posts: 9,317 Donated: $60	More evidence: lurkers, and more so trappers, have decent AC, whereas Qs have almost none. So 12 blows in a row connecting favors a Q. __________________ One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

October 22, 2021, 23:11	#10
Grotug Veteran Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 1,531	Aren't Q's detectable by infravision? __________________ Beginner's Guide to Angband 4.2.3 Part 2: https://youtu.be/sbFvvalyU1Q Detailed account of my Ironman win here.

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October 21, 2021, 19:12	#2
Pete Mack Prophet Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 6,666 Donated: $40	Possibly a midlevel Q? Edit: If you enabled verbose messages, it would "squlch" and "quiver in pain", and you'd know for sure. The other possibility is will'o'wisp, but you are unlikely to just run into one like that.

October 22, 2021, 01:48	#3
Estie Veteran Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 2,057	Yes Q is the prime suspect. Will o wisp is electricity resistant (or should be).

October 22, 2021, 10:22	#4
Selkie Swordsman Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: London Posts: 423	My guess would be a lurker

October 22, 2021, 11:46	#7
Sphara Swordsman Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Finland Posts: 478	99,9% certain lurker. You need to have more dmg/turn to two-shot a midgame Q or a trapper.

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