Family Tree

swim · March 21, 2021, 01:06

Hello!

I decided to make a family tree showing the lineage of variants, because I felt that this is something that I really would have liked to have when I was starting to research Angband, but couldn't find one!
I didn't include every single variant, but just the ones that seemed to be the "main" group.

Check it out here.

My sources were tangar's variants table, RogueBasin, and GitHub pages.

I may add some color coding later but I'm pleased with what I have for now.

Let me know if you see any errors, or if you have any ideas for ways to improve it.

Nick · March 21, 2021, 03:25

That's a really nice balance of simplicity and information.

Sil was forked from NPPangband, so potentially you could add that in there.

swim · March 21, 2021, 16:24

Thanks.

Updated to include NPPangband

Dean Anderson · March 22, 2021, 09:04

I don't know if Cthangband is considered prominent enough to add, but if so it branched from Zangband in 1997 and the latest release was in 2020.

There's also PernAngband, which became Troubles of Middle Earth (TOME), which became Tales of Maj'Eyal (keeping the TOME name). I couldn't give you dates or an exact lineage for that one, though.

swim · March 22, 2021, 12:55

If it's been around and updated for 23 years then that seems relevant enough to me! I'll check it out!
Thanks for the suggestions.
I find it oddly soothing making adjustments to this tree hahah

swim · March 22, 2021, 22:28

Updated to include the ToME lineage + Cthangband

Pete Mack · March 22, 2021, 23:23

@Swim--
You might consider using a directed graph. In particular, FAAngband 2 is a cross between FAAngband and Angband v4.2. No way would Nick have done it with the 3.0-era code base. The new code is--mostly--a lot easier to deal with. With one exception: monster resistance is more mysterious now.

swim · March 23, 2021, 00:20

I'm trying to avoid it becoming a beast similar to this nethack tree, but I'll see what I can do!

swim · March 23, 2021, 00:24

Although now that I think about it I wouldn't be a bad idea to have both! A simplified one + a super in depth one with the version numbers.

budswell · March 23, 2021, 16:03

Thanks, thats nice and simple and good

March 21, 2021, 01:06	#1
swim Apprentice Join Date: Mar 2021 Location: NL, Canada Posts: 82	Family Tree Hello! I decided to make a family tree showing the lineage of variants, because I felt that this is something that I really would have liked to have when I was starting to research Angband, but couldn't find one! I didn't include every single variant, but just the ones that seemed to be the "main" group. Check it out here. My sources were tangar's variants table, RogueBasin, and GitHub pages. I may add some color coding later but I'm pleased with what I have for now. Let me know if you see any errors, or if you have any ideas for ways to improve it. Last edited by swim; July 7, 2022 at 12:41.

March 21, 2021, 03:25	#2
Nick Vanilla maintainer Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Canberra, Australia Age: 58 Posts: 9,529 Donated: $60	That's a really nice balance of simplicity and information. Sil was forked from NPPangband, so potentially you could add that in there. __________________ One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

March 23, 2021, 16:03	#10
budswell Adept Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 159	Thanks, thats nice and simple and good __________________ http://angband.oook.cz/ladder-browse.php?e=budswell http://te4.org/user/1471/characters

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Dean Anderson Adept Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 193	I don't know if Cthangband is considered prominent enough to add, but if so it branched from Zangband in 1997 and the latest release was in 2020. There's also PernAngband, which became Troubles of Middle Earth (TOME), which became Tales of Maj'Eyal (keeping the TOME name). I couldn't give you dates or an exact lineage for that one, though.

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swim Apprentice Join Date: Mar 2021 Location: NL, Canada Posts: 82	If it's been around and updated for 23 years then that seems relevant enough to me! I'll check it out! Thanks for the suggestions. I find it oddly soothing making adjustments to this tree hahah

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swim Apprentice Join Date: Mar 2021 Location: NL, Canada Posts: 82	Updated to include the ToME lineage + Cthangband

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Pete Mack Prophet Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 6,802 Donated: $40	@Swim-- You might consider using a directed graph. In particular, FAAngband 2 is a cross between FAAngband and Angband v4.2. No way would Nick have done it with the 3.0-era code base. The new code is--mostly--a lot easier to deal with. With one exception: monster resistance is more mysterious now.

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swim Apprentice Join Date: Mar 2021 Location: NL, Canada Posts: 82	I'm trying to avoid it becoming a beast similar to this nethack tree, but I'll see what I can do!

March 23, 2021, 00:24	#9
swim Apprentice Join Date: Mar 2021 Location: NL, Canada Posts: 82	Although now that I think about it I wouldn't be a bad idea to have both! A simplified one + a super in depth one with the version numbers.

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