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Old April 4, 2010, 04:33   #1
Sirridan
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Trouble with Sauron

Alrighty, I'm having a bit of trouble with sauron, for the most part if I get him down at all he just drains something from my pack and bang goes back up.

Should I just drop everything when If ight him? My -TO isn't reliable enough with him (rods, wands are fine.)

Also he seems to be able to take a huge chunk off my hit points, forcing me to heal while he keeps whacking me... at +24 speed, am I not fast enough?

Thanks for any help, below is a dump.

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  [Angband 3.1.2 Character Dump]

 Name   Herzeleid                                Self  RB  CB  EB   Best
 Sex    Male         Age             23   STR! 18/100  -1  +5  +9 18/***
 Race   Kobold       Height          35   INT:  18/77  -1  -2  +8 18/127
 Class  Warrior      Weight          71   WIS:     16  +0  -2  +5  18/10
 Title  Lord         Social  Well-liked   DEX! 18/100  +2  +2  +7 18/210
 HP     1109/1109    Maximize         Y   CON! 18/100  +2  +2 +10 18/***
 SP     0/0                               CHR:     16  -2  -1  +3     16

 Level               50   Armor   [35,+123]     Saving Throw         71%
 Cur Exp        5416565   Fight   (+46,+35)     Stealth           Superb
 Max Exp        5416565   Melee   (+59,+45)     Fighting       Legendary
 Adv Exp       ********   Shoot   (+66,+22)     Shooting       Legendary
 MaxDepth   4950' (L99)   Blows      5/turn     Disarming           100%
 Game Turns      753396   Shots      2/turn     Magic Device          65
 Player Turns    113061   Infra       50 ft     Perception       1 in 33
 Active Turns    104028   Speed          16     Searching            29%
 Gold            566395   Burden  198.2 lbs

 You come from a litter of 4 pups. Your father was the tribal chief,
 and your mother was a cook. You have brown eyes, a dark brown hide,
 and small, sharp teeth.


rAcid:+.....+.*.... rConf:......+......
rElec:..*...+...... Sound:......+.+....
rFire:......+...... Shard:.......+.....
rCold:....+.+...... Nexus:......+......
rPois:..+.........+ Nethr:....+........
rFear:........+...+ Chaos:........+....
rLite:.....+....... Disen:.+...........
rDark:..+.++....... S.Dig:..+..........
rBlnd:.........+... Feath:..+........+.

Light:............. Aggrv:.............
Regen:..+.......... Stea.:.+.........+.
  ESP:..+......+... Sear.:.............
Invis:..+..+....... Infra:............+
FrAct:..+.....+.+.. Tunn.:.............
HLife:..+.++....... Speed:.+++.......+.
ImpHP:............. Blows:.............
ImpSP:............. Shots:.+...........
 Fear:............. Might:.............


  [Character Equipment]

a) a Mace of Disruption of Acid (5d8) (+13,+10)
     Slays undead.
     Branded with acid.
     Provides resistance to acid.
     Cannot be harmed by acid.
     
     Combat info:
     5 blows/round.
     Average damage/hit: 133.2 vs. undead, 133.2 vs. creatures not
     resistant to acid, and 76.5 vs. others.
     
b) The Long Bow 'Belthronding' (x3) (+20,+22) (+1)
     +1 dexterity, stealth, speed, shooting speed.
     Provides resistance to disenchantment.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
     
c) The Ring of Power 'Vilya' (+10,+10) (+3)
     +3 strength, intelligence, wisdom, dexterity, constitution, 
     charisma, speed.
     Provides immunity to lightning.
     Provides resistance to lightning, poison, dark.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
     Sustains intelligence, dexterity, constitution.
     Slows your metabolism.  Feather Falling.  Speeds regeneration.  
     Prevents paralysis.  Sustains your life force.  Grants telepathy.  
     Grants the ability to see invisible things.  
     
     When activated, it heals 1000 hit points.
     Takes 525 to 780 turns to recharge at your current speed.
     Your chance of success is 74.7%
     
d) a Ring of Speed (+10)
     +10 speed.
     
e) The Jewel 'Evenstar'
     Provides resistance to cold, dark, nether.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
     Sustains intelligence, wisdom, constitution.
     Sustains your life force.  
     
     When activated, it restores your experience to full.
     Takes 390 turns to recharge at your current speed.
     Your chance of success is 90.0%
     
f) The Arkenstone of Thrain {!!}
     Provides resistance to light, dark.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
     Sustains your life force.  Grants the ability to see invisible
     things.  
     
     When activated, it detects treasure, traps, doors, stairs, and all 
     creatures nearby.
     Takes 80 to 156 turns to recharge at your current speed.
     Your chance of success is 88.1%
     
     Radius 3 light.
g) The Full Plate Armour of Isildur [26,+22] (+1) {!t}
     +1 constitution.
     Provides resistance to acid, lightning, fire, cold, confusion, 
     sound, nexus.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
     
h) an Ethereal Cloak of Protection [0,+34]
     Provides resistance to shards.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
     
i) The Small Metal Shield of Thorin [4,+25] (+4)
     +4 strength, constitution.
     Provides immunity to acid.
     Provides resistance to fear, sound, chaos.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
     Prevents paralysis.  
     
j) The Hard Leather Cap of Thranduil [2,+9] (+2)
     +2 intelligence, wisdom.
     Provides resistance to blindness.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
     Grants telepathy.  
     
k) The Set of Leather Gloves 'Cambeleg' (+7,+6) [1,+13] (+2)
     +2 strength, constitution.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
     Prevents paralysis.  
     
l) The Pair of Leather Boots of Wormtongue (-1,-1) [2,+5] (+3)
     +3 intelligence, dexterity, stealth, speed.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
     Feather Falling.  
     
     When activated, it teleports you randomly up to 10 squares away.
     Takes 52 turns to recharge at your current speed.
     Your chance of success is 94.2%
     


  [Character Quiver]

n) 5 Arrows of Slay Giant (1d4) (+8,+14)
     Slays giants.
     
     Combat info:
     Hits targets up to 120 feet away.
     Average damage/hit: 367.3 vs. giants, and 122.4 vs. others.
     35% chance of breaking upon contact.
     
o) 20 Arrows of Venom (1d4) (+16,+11)
     Branded with venom.
     
     Combat info:
     Hits targets up to 120 feet away.
     Average damage/hit: 341.9 vs. creatures not resistant to poison, 
     and 113.9 vs. others.
     35% chance of breaking upon contact.
     
p) 29 Arrows of Flame (1d4) {splendid}
     You do not know the full extent of this item's powers.
     Branded with flames.
     Cannot be harmed by fire.
     
     Combat info:
     Hits targets up to 120 feet away.
     Average damage/hit: 231.5 vs. creatures not resistant to fire, and 
     77.2 vs. others.
     35% chance of breaking upon contact.
     
q) 10 Arrows of Frost (1d4) (+16,+14)
     Branded with frost.
     Cannot be harmed by cold.
     
     Combat info:
     Hits targets up to 120 feet away.
     Average damage/hit: 370.7 vs. creatures not resistant to cold, and 
     123.6 vs. others.
     35% chance of breaking upon contact.
     
r) 2 Mithril Arrows of Wounding (3d4) (+21,+19)
     Cannot be harmed by acid, fire.
     
     Combat info:
     Hits targets up to 120 feet away.
     Average damage/hit: 155.7.
     35% chance of breaking upon contact.
     
s) 10 Arrows of Slay Undead (1d4) (+10,+16)
     Slays undead.
     
     Combat info:
     Hits targets up to 120 feet away.
     Average damage/hit: 386.4 vs. undead, and 128.8 vs. others.
     35% chance of breaking upon contact.
     
t) 20 Arrows of Wounding (1d4) {excellent}
     You do not know the full extent of this item's powers.
     
     Combat info:
     Hits targets up to 120 feet away.
     Average damage/hit: 77.2.
     35% chance of breaking upon contact.
     
u) (nothing)
v) (nothing)
w) (nothing)


  [Character Inventory]

a) 15 Potions of Cure Critical Wounds
     
b) a Potion of *Enlightenment*
     It can be thrown at creatures with damaging effect.
     
c) 14 Scrolls of Phase Door
d) 5 Scrolls of Teleportation {!*}
e) 15 Scrolls of Teleport Level {!*}
f) 2 Scrolls of Banishment
g) 4 Scrolls of *Destruction*
h) 2 Rods of Detection {!!}
     Cannot be harmed by electricity.
     
i) 2 Rods of Healing {!!}
     Cannot be harmed by electricity.
     
j) 5 Rods of Teleport Other {!!}
k) 2 Rods of Recall {!!!*}
     Cannot be harmed by electricity.
     
l) 6 Wands of Teleport Other (20 charges)
     
m) 4 Staves of *Destruction* (11 charges)
     
n) 2 Staves of Healing (4 charges)
     
o) 2 Staves of Speed (8 charges) {!*}
     
p) The Ring of Power 'Narya' (+6,+6) (+1)
     +1 strength, intelligence, wisdom, dexterity, constitution, 
     charisma, speed.
     Provides immunity to fire.
     Provides resistance to fire, fear.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
     Sustains strength, constitution.
     Slows your metabolism.  Speeds regeneration.  Prevents paralysis.  
     Grants telepathy.  Grants the ability to see invisible things.  
     
     When activated, it grants you protection from evil for 1d25 plus 3 
     times your character level turns.
     Takes 530 to 1040 turns to recharge at your current speed.
     Your chance of success is 83.0%
     
q) The Ring of Power 'Nenya' (+8,+8) (+2)
     +2 strength, intelligence, wisdom, dexterity, constitution, 
     charisma, speed.
     Provides immunity to cold.
     Provides resistance to cold, blindness.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
     Sustains intelligence, wisdom, constitution.
     Feather Falling.  Speeds regeneration.  Prevents paralysis.  
     Sustains your life force.  Grants telepathy.  Grants the ability
     to see invisible things.  
     
     When activated, it restores your experience to full.
     Takes 525 to 780 turns to recharge at your current speed.
     Your chance of success is 79.4%
     
r) The Long Bow of Bard (x5) (+17,+19) (+2)
     +2 dexterity, speed, shooting power.
     Slays dragons.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
     Prevents paralysis.  
     


  [Home Inventory]

a) a Potion of Healing
     
b) 3 Potions of *Healing*
     It can be thrown at creatures with damaging effect.
     
c) 4 Potions of Life
     It can be thrown at creatures with damaging effect.
     
d) a Potion of Enlightenment
e) 21 Scrolls of Enchant Weapon To-Hit
f) a Scroll of *Remove Curse*
g) 6 Scrolls of Recharging
h) a Scroll of Rune of Protection
i) 4 Scrolls of *Destruction*
j) a Rod of Restoration
     Cannot be harmed by electricity.
     
k) a Rod of Speed
     Cannot be harmed by electricity.
     
l) a Staff of Speed (5 charges)
     
m) 3 Staves of Identify (40 charges) {!*}
     
n) Power Dragon Scale Mail (-3) [40,+23]
     Provides resistance to acid, lightning, fire, cold, poison, light, 
     dark, confusion, sound, shards, chaos, disenchantment.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
     
o) The Ethereal Cloak of Tuor [6,+12] (+4)
     +4 dexterity, stealth.
     Provides immunity to acid.
     Provides resistance to acid.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
     Prevents paralysis.  Grants the ability to see invisible things.  
     
p) The Large Metal Shield of Anarion [5,+20]
     Provides resistance to acid, lightning, fire, cold.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
     Sustains strength, intelligence, wisdom, dexterity, constitution, 
     charisma.
     
q) The Metal Cap of Celebrimbor [3,+18] (+3 searching)
     +3 intelligence, dexterity, charisma.
     +15% to searching.
     Provides resistance to acid, fire, shards, disenchantment.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
     
r) The Glaive of Pain (9d6) (+0,+30)
     Provides resistance to fear.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, electricity, fire, cold.
     
     Combat info:
     5 blows/round.
     Average damage/hit: 107.9.
     
s) 29 Seeker Bolts of Holy Might (4d5) (+21,+18)
     Slays evil creatures, undead, demons.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, fire.
     
t) 19 Seeker Bolts of Venom (4d5) (+11,+12)
     Branded with venom.
     
u) 20 Seeker Bolts (4d5) (+3,+4)
v) 34 Seeker Bolts (4d5) {magical}
     You do not know the full extent of this item's powers.
     


============================================================
                   CHAR.
|   TURN  | DEPTH |LEVEL| EVENT
============================================================
         1      0'    1   Began the quest to destroy Morgoth.
      5573     50'    2   Reached level 2
     13801    100'    3   Reached level 3
     18254    150'    4   Reached level 4
     24244    200'    5   Reached level 5
     29236    250'    6   Reached level 6
     31856    350'    7   Reached level 7
     34482    350'    8   Reached level 8
     37683    350'    8   Killed Grip, Farmer Maggot's dog
     40038    350'    9   Reached level 9
     52068    550'   10   Reached level 10
     62001    600'   11   Reached level 11
     66587    650'   12   Reached level 12
     69790    650'   13   Reached level 13
     72459    700'   13   Killed Wormtongue, Agent of Saruman
     72459    700'   14   Reached level 14
     84520    750'   15   Reached level 15
     97030    800'   16   Reached level 16
     97760    800'   17   Reached level 17
    102824    800'   18   Reached level 18
    124830    800'   19   Reached level 19
    141394    850'   19   Killed Lagduf, the Snaga
    147652    850'   19   Found The Set of Leather Gloves 'Cambeleg'
    152990    850'   20   Reached level 20
    161174    900'   21   Reached level 21
    167095    950'   21   Killed Brodda, the Easterling
    177727   1000'   22   Reached level 22
    178780      0'   22   Killed Farmer Maggot
    193327   1100'   22   Killed Nar, the Dwarf
    193508   1100'   23   Reached level 23
    196362   1200'   23   Killed Mughash the Kobold Lord
    200003   1200'   24   Reached level 24
    200704   1200'   24   Killed Orfax, Son of Boldor
    202952   1200'   24   Found The Set of Gauntlets 'Paurhach' (LOST)
    217440   1400'   25   Reached level 25
    221334   1500'   25   Killed Smeagol
    229351   1650'   26   Reached level 26
    251224   1750'   27   Reached level 27
    267695   1800'   28   Reached level 28
    272222   1800'   28   Found The Leather Shield of Celegorm (LOST)
    280987   1800'   28   Found The Beaked Axe of Theoden (LOST)
    330755   1850'   29   Reached level 29
    332008   1850'   29   Killed Tom the Stone Troll
    332024   1850'   29   Found The Metal Cap of Thengel (LOST)
    333688   1800'   29   Killed Sangahyando of Umbar
    335446   1800'   28   Killed Adunaphel the Quiet
    341250   1850'   29   Found The Short Bow of Amras (LOST)
    346641   1850'   29   Killed Fang, Farmer Maggot's dog
    348171   1850'   29   Found The Leather Scale Mail 'Thalkettoth' (LOST)
    351919   1850'   29   Found The Set of Gauntlets 'Pauraegen' (LOST)
    351927   1850'   29   Found The Zweihander 'Mormegil' (LOST)
    357134   2000'   30   Reached level 30
    360573   2050'   30   Killed Ugluk, the Uruk
    366583   2050'   30   Killed Bert the Stone Troll
    371333   2050'   31   Reached level 31
    376285   2100'   31   Killed Golfimbul, the Hill Orc Chief
    376349   2100'   31   Found The Phial of Galadriel (LOST)
    384021   2150'   31   Killed Azog, King of the Uruk-Hai
    399735   2300'   31   Killed Ufthak of Cirith Ungol
    404469   2350'   31   Found The Flail 'Totila' (LOST)
    405995   2350'   32   Reached level 32
    410845   2350'   33   Reached level 33
    413774   2400'   33   Killed Shagrat, the Orc Captain
    420294   2500'   33   Killed Rogrog the Black Troll
    420302   2500'   33   Found The Amulet of Carlammas (LOST)
    424315   2500'   33   Killed Mim, Betrayer of Turin
    424429   2500'   33   Killed The Queen Ant
    424684   2500'   33   Found The Pair of Leather Boots of Wormtongue
    429468   2500'   33   Killed Bullroarer the Hobbit
    429503   2500'   33   Found The Hard Leather Cap of Thranduil
    432741   2600'   33   Killed Boldor, King of the Yeeks
    433463   2600'   34   Reached level 34
    444801   2700'   34   Killed Ibun, Son of Mim
    447999   2700'   34   Found The Small Metal Shield of Thorin
    452105   2700'   34   Killed Uldor the Accursed
    456696   2750'   35   Reached level 35
    466801   3000'   35   Killed Kavlax the Many-Headed
    466819   3000'   35   Found The Jewel 'Evenstar'
    470323   3000'   35   Killed Smaug the Golden
    470362   3000'   35   Found The Chain Mail of Arvedui (LOST)
    474922   3000'   35   Found The Augmented Chain Mail of Caspanion (LOST)
    475254   3000'   35   Found The Set of Gauntlets 'Paurnen' (LOST)
    480433   3000'   36   Reached level 36
    481724   3000'   36   Found The Metal Brigandine Armour of the Rohirrim (LOST)
    485849   3300'   36   Found The Full Plate Armour of Isildur
    487866   3350'   36   Killed Scatha the Worm
    487966   3350'   36   Found The Scythe 'Avavir' (LOST)
    488436   3350'   36   Found The Lochaber Axe 'Mundwine' (LOST)
    493499   3450'   36   Found The Scimitar 'Haradekket' (LOST)
    501390   3500'   36   Killed Lokkak, the Ogre Chieftain
    505088   3550'   37   Reached level 37
    515159   3600'   37   Found The Metal Cap of Celebrimbor
    515244   3600'   37   Killed Waldern, King of Water
    516091   3600'   37   Killed Gorbag, the Orc Captain
    521980   3600'   38   Reached level 38
    526278   3600'   38   Killed Medusa, the Gorgon
    527883   3700'   38   Killed Uvatha the Horseman
    527898   3700'   38   Found The Long Bow 'Belthronding'
    527920   3700'   38   Found The Ring of Barahir (LOST)
    533034   3900'   38   Killed Khim, Son of Mim
    542243   4000'   38   Found The Halberd 'Osondir' (LOST)
    544269   4050'   39   Reached level 39
    546413   4050'   39   Killed Dwar, Dog Lord of Waw
    557234   4050'   40   Reached level 40
    564673   4200'   40   Found The Amulet of Ingwe (LOST)
    565005   4200'   40   Killed Akhorahil the Blind
    565921   4200'   40   Killed Thuringwethil, the Vampire Messenger
    568970   4250'   40   Found The Beaked Axe of Hurin (LOST)
    572123   4250'   40   Killed Grishnakh, the Hill Orc
    574122   4250'   40   Killed The Balrog of Moria
    574122   4250'   41   Reached level 41
    577982   4250'   41   Killed Bill the Stone Troll
    578302   4250'   41   Killed Harowen the Black Hand
    594796   4550'   42   Reached level 42
    600438   4650'   42   Found The Long Bow of Bard
    601877   4750'   42   Found The Star of Elendil (LOST)
    604688   4750'   42   Found The Ethereal Cloak of Tuor
    605836   4750'   42   Killed The Witch-King of Angmar
    605836   4750'   43   Reached level 43
    605856   4750'   43   Found The Arkenstone of Thrain
    608515   4750'   43   Killed Draugluin, Sire of All Werewolves
    611306   4850'   44   Reached level 44
    612696   4900'   44   Killed Draebor, the Imp
    615528   4950'   44   Killed Hoarmurath of Dir
    616206   4950'   44   Killed Ulfast, Son of Ulfang
    617750   4900'   44   Found The Large Metal Shield of Anarion
    619647   4800'   45   Reached level 45
    621317   4850'   45   Found The Long Sword 'Anguirel' (LOST)
    630244   4900'   45   Killed Itangast the Fire Drake
    650385   4850'   45   Killed Omarax, the Eye Tyrant
    650385   4850'   46   Reached level 46
    668622   4900'   46   Found The Mithril Shield of Gil-galad (LOST)
    668890   4900'   46   Killed The Lernaean Hydra
    669473   4900'   46   Killed Lugdush, the Uruk
    669630   4900'   46   Found The Short Bow of Amrod (LOST)
    677874   4750'   46   Killed Ren the Unclean
    677902   4750'   46   Found The Ring of Power 'Vilya'
    680388   4700'   46   Killed Saruman of Many Colours
    680388   4700'   47   Reached level 47
    680802   4700'   47   Killed Kronos, Lord of the Titans
    682778   4750'   47   Killed Tselakus, the Dreadlord
    683179   4800'   47   Killed Polyphemus, the Blind Cyclops
    683733   4800'   47   Killed Ar-Pharazon the Golden
    685450   4800'   47   Killed Beorn, the Shape-Changer
    691014   4800'   47   Found The Ring of Power 'Narya'
    691446   4800'   47   Killed Ulwarth, Son of Ulfang
    695326   4900'   47   Killed Gothmog, the High Captain of Balrogs
    699007   4900'   47   Killed Ungoliant, the Unlight
    699182   4900'   47   Found The Ring of Power 'Nenya'
    700612   4900'   47   Killed Huan, Wolfhound of the Valar
    700612   4900'   48   Reached level 48
    706669   4950'   48   Killed Uriel, Angel of Fire
    707550   4950'   48   Killed Eol, the Dark Elf
    711135   4900'   48   Found The Broad Sword 'Aeglin' (LOST)
    714759   4850'   49   Reached level 49
    715091   4850'   49   Found The Executioner's Sword 'Crisdurian' (LOST)
    715897   4850'   49   Killed Maeglin, the Traitor of Gondolin
    727914   4900'   49   Killed Fundin Bluecloak
    731978   4850'   49   Killed The Cat Lord
    733098   4850'   50   Reached level 50
    735224   4850'   50   Found The Glaive of Pain
    742236   4900'   50   Killed Angamaite of Umbar


  [Options]

Maximize effect of race/class bonuses        : yes (adult_maximize)
Randomize some of the artifacts (beta)       : no  (adult_randarts)
Restrict the use of stairs/recall            : no  (adult_ironman)
Restrict the use of stores/home              : no  (adult_no_stores)
Restrict creation of artifacts               : no  (adult_no_artifacts)
Don't stack objects on the floor             : no  (adult_no_stacking)
Lose artifacts when leaving level            : no  (adult_no_preserve)
Don't generate connected stairs              : no  (adult_no_stairs)
Adult: Monsters chase current location       : yes (adult_ai_sound)
Adult: Monsters chase recent locations       : yes (adult_ai_smell)
Adult: Monsters act smarter in groups        : yes (adult_ai_packs)
Adult: Monsters learn from their mistakes    : no  (adult_ai_learn)
Adult: Monsters exploit players weaknesses   : no  (adult_ai_cheat)
Adult: Monsters behave more intelligently (broken): no  (adult_ai_smart)
Score: Peek into object creation             : no  (score_peek)
Score: Peek into monster creation            : no  (score_hear)
Score: Peek into dungeon creation            : no  (score_room)
Score: Peek into something else              : no  (score_xtra)
Score: Know complete monster info            : no  (score_know)
Score: Allow player to avoid death           : no  (score_live)
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Old April 4, 2010, 06:20   #2
Pete Mack
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No way can you fight Sauron with 4 stacks of wands and staffs. With magic device 65, you should have an easy time activating the rod of speed. The staffs of healing are good for a backup, but there's no reason to carry them charged. In any case, you are much better off with a huge stack of !CCW.

I recommend, strongly:
30+ !CCW
10+ ?Phase Door
3+ ?Recharging (for wands of Teleport other)


and go in with your wands at zero charges. (*Destruction* is useless vs Sauron, and Speed is only useful prior to melee and on recharging. You can leave your staffs of Healing and Speed in a safe place on the floor prior to the fight. Use ?Phase to escape for a breather to use them from the floor.)
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Ah thanks, I'll be going for him now, I killed a few more of the scary uniques.
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10+ ?Phase Door
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Those numbers seem a bit low. I guess they make sense as absolute minima.

There's no point in going with fewer than 40 ?phase unless that is the difference between +20 speed and +19. Recharge occasionally fails, so I'd want more, but they can be a pain to collect. So what -- it would be a shame to squander the time you've spent so far because of unwillingness to scum the alchemist a few times. I'd say a minimum of 2 ?recharge for every item that you carry that can be recharged.
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First attempt was going well until he summoned a ton of nastier uniques (all the undeads except tselaskus whom I killed). I ported them all away including sauron, then had to tele myself due to a few that I missed. Ended up killing Dawndeath who was the last unliving ringwraith.

Ended up ?tlevel due to fear of death as the level filled with greater demons and undead.

Second attempt I dug out a twisty corridor (not anti summon) and he filled it with greater demons. ?phased and ported, and when he was at 1 *, he ran. I recharged my _tele and ran after him.

Sauron dead, he dropped a bunch of ego crap.

Any tips for M?

Edit: going to bed, don't want to play so close while tired. Gnight and thanks again pete! Your advice clenched the kill.

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A bit OT but: Pete, you mention CCW potions... Has something about those changed in Vanilla since I last played it? Last I recall those were pretty useless at high levels.
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A bit OT but: Pete, you mention CCW potions... Has something about those changed in Vanilla since I last played it? Last I recall those were pretty useless at high levels.
In recent versons, they're more like half-strength !Heal in the final fight. (The way the % of healing comes out in practice.)
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Using a ?Phase to break LoS and slamming several !CCW is very useful even at max level.

The best thing about !CCW is the store usually has them, so they're easy to farm and can't get drained.
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Ah okay. I usually play ToME, and in my experience they're not too useful at high levels.
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A bit OT but: Pete, you mention CCW potions... Has something about those changed in Vanilla since I last played it? Last I recall those were pretty useless at high levels.
They heal 25% of wounds, or 125HP when down 500HP. It generally takes about 3 to put you back in the fight.
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