ignoring lights

Sky · November 30, 2017, 21:29

i was thinking, what if you have a randart set with randart torches, and you set your game to ignore torches .. that means the artifact would not be visible, right? generally, when i find a lantern, i immediately set my torches to squelch. but, that means i'll never see any artifact torch, unless i walk over it, or not even that ?

Pete Mack · December 1, 2017, 01:26

That's right--unless you can squelch all except artifact.

Sky · December 1, 2017, 21:14

i'm sorry, something is not right here.

if i ignore "every cloak except artifacts" then i still see cloaks; once i walk over them, if they are not an artifact, they disappear.

if i ignore "every torch except artifacts", ALL the torches disappear.

Nick · December 1, 2017, 22:07

Looking at the code, artifact torches should not ever be ignored - even if you set torches to be ignored in the main ignore list. Have you ever come across a case where they are?

Sky · December 1, 2017, 22:59

well, i can't tell, can i ?

it just seems weird that, with artifact lights being the most common, and almost every set of randarts generating a torch or lantern randart, i never seem to find any after the ignore is set on.

im gonna do a quick testing.

kandrc · December 2, 2017, 02:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sky

well, i can't tell, can i ?

it just seems weird that, with artifact lights being the most common, and almost every set of randarts generating a torch or lantern randart, i never seem to find any after the ignore is set on.

im gonna do a quick testing.

To add my own anecdote to Sky's, I've never found an artifact torch, and I've only found one artifact lantern, in many games since they were added.

Nick · December 2, 2017, 03:59

All right, bug found - and it's not at all as expected. There was an error in choosing the kinds for objects to base randarts on which meant the first of any type never got chosen, namely:

Torch
Dagger
Whip
Spear
Sling
Shovel
Leather Sandals
Hard Leather Cap
Iron Crown
Robe
Metal Scale Mail
Cloak
Leather Gloves
Wicker Shield
Ring (rings were always Band)
Amulet (amulets were Pendant, Necklace, etc)
Black Dragon Scale Mail

Well done all, glad to find that one

Sky · December 2, 2017, 12:10

Another victory for empirical analysis

PowerWyrm · December 4, 2017, 08:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick

All right, bug found - and it's not at all as expected. There was an error in choosing the kinds for objects to base randarts on which meant the first of any type never got chosen, namely:

Torch
Dagger
Whip
Spear
Sling
Shovel
Leather Sandals
Hard Leather Cap
Iron Crown
Robe
Metal Scale Mail
Cloak
Leather Gloves
Wicker Shield
Ring (rings were always Band)
Amulet (amulets were Pendant, Necklace, etc)
Black Dragon Scale Mail

Well done all, glad to find that one

That's strange... I remember a similar bug being fixed for 4.1, but maybe it was concerning egos I don't remember. But yes, finding always "Bands" should have made it obvious there was something fishy going on.

Nick · December 4, 2017, 11:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by PowerWyrm

That's strange... I remember a similar bug being fixed for 4.1, but maybe it was concerning egos I don't remember. But yes, finding always "Bands" should have made it obvious there was something fishy going on.

I was previously off by one in the other direction - so no Arkenstones, etc

November 30, 2017, 21:29	#1
Sky Veteran Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: somewhere on the south coast Age: 45 Posts: 1,142	ignoring lights i was thinking, what if you have a randart set with randart torches, and you set your game to ignore torches .. that means the artifact would not be visible, right? generally, when i find a lantern, i immediately set my torches to squelch. but, that means i'll never see any artifact torch, unless i walk over it, or not even that ? __________________ "i can take this dracolich"

December 1, 2017, 21:14	#3
Sky Veteran Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: somewhere on the south coast Age: 45 Posts: 1,142	i'm sorry, something is not right here. if i ignore "every cloak except artifacts" then i still see cloaks; once i walk over them, if they are not an artifact, they disappear. if i ignore "every torch except artifacts", ALL the torches disappear. __________________ "i can take this dracolich"

December 1, 2017, 22:07	#4
Nick Vanilla maintainer Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Canberra, Australia Age: 53 Posts: 7,173 Donated: $60	Looking at the code, artifact torches should not ever be ignored - even if you set torches to be ignored in the main ignore list. Have you ever come across a case where they are? __________________ One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

December 1, 2017, 22:59	#5
Sky Veteran Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: somewhere on the south coast Age: 45 Posts: 1,142	well, i can't tell, can i ? it just seems weird that, with artifact lights being the most common, and almost every set of randarts generating a torch or lantern randart, i never seem to find any after the ignore is set on. im gonna do a quick testing. __________________ "i can take this dracolich"

December 2, 2017, 03:59	#7
Nick Vanilla maintainer Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Canberra, Australia Age: 53 Posts: 7,173 Donated: $60	All right, bug found - and it's not at all as expected. There was an error in choosing the kinds for objects to base randarts on which meant the first of any type never got chosen, namely: Torch Dagger Whip Spear Sling Shovel Leather Sandals Hard Leather Cap Iron Crown Robe Metal Scale Mail Cloak Leather Gloves Wicker Shield Ring (rings were always Band) Amulet (amulets were Pendant, Necklace, etc) Black Dragon Scale Mail Well done all, glad to find that one __________________ One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

December 1, 2017, 01:26	#2
Pete Mack Prophet Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 4,909 Donated: $40	That's right--unless you can squelch all except artifact.

December 2, 2017, 12:10	#8
Sky Veteran Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: somewhere on the south coast Age: 45 Posts: 1,142	Another victory for empirical analysis __________________ "i can take this dracolich"

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