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Old October 16, 2017, 04:00   #1
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Question Paladin's boring class?

Hey folks, hope you all doing great i wanted to know why some people say that the Paladin class is boring and hard... In my opinion i think is a cool class because you can play tanky

So i would like to hear some oppinions :3

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Old October 16, 2017, 05:28   #2
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Hm, I don't know that I'd call Paladin boring, but it is a class that doesn't have any glaring weaknesses, which means that there's nothing substantial that you have to overcome aside from the dungeon itself. Like, warriors have no spells, rogues have poor spellcasting, mages are made out of paper, rangers can't do anything well except archery, priests need an offense until Orb comes along...and paladins just have poor stealth and a min 5% failure rate. Otherwise there's not really any question of if you're going to have trouble with building a winnable character, between the good melee and the frankly rather overpowered holy spell list.
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Old October 16, 2017, 06:49   #3
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Yeah, any class with high HP, good melee, and a healing spell is going to be kind of boring. Heal300 is such a boss spell, you had better have some weakness to make up for it. Paladins don't, really. Otherwise, it plays like a somewhat weaker warrior: yes, Paladin may get detection earlier than a warrior. And detect evil/bless/cure are nice, but not game changing. But other than unlimited healing, Paladin spells are nothing special, and a warrior can pretty much keep up with magic devices. (That said, Half-Troll Warrior is a different matter.)
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paladin is super super boring until you get to the high levels, then it's boring but you get to spam Heal.
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Old October 16, 2017, 09:07   #5
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It's kind of like ranger that way...
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Old October 16, 2017, 15:44   #6
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Yeah, any class with high HP, good melee, and a healing spell is going to be kind of boring. Heal300 is such a boss spell, you had better have some weakness to make up for it. Paladins don't, really. Otherwise, it plays like a somewhat weaker warrior: yes, Paladin may get detection earlier than a warrior. And detect evil/bless/cure are nice, but not game changing. But other than unlimited healing, Paladin spells are nothing special, and a warrior can pretty much keep up with magic devices. (That said, Half-Troll Warrior is a different matter.)
Ohh i see, so people say is "boring" because it's a way too easy class with very few penalties... Well yeah that's a good point, they might be way OP... But not indestructible, i once had a lvl 37 Dunadan Paladin and that guy was awesome! I had good gear like the beaked axe of Hurin and the bastard sword of eowyn and i was kinda deep into the dungeon when i got melted by Arien the sun maia xd maybe because in the whole game i never had any gear that gave me extra speed other than potions... But other than that i loved when i used to fight Ancient dragons hand to hand xD

Anyway... Thanks! Now i'm playing with a human rogue (i like races that are good in melee) it looks very interesting this combination.

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Old October 16, 2017, 16:59   #7
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they are boring because they defend rather than attack. you don't get any high damage spells, almost everything you cast has a very high mana cost, you don't have speed, your useful spells are spread out between 7 books, you need to carry recall, TO, Slow, arrows, etc. and essentially you are a melee class.

i *just* made it to CL40 and finally i can get rid of some staves .. which means i will have more than just 1 inventory slot empty, finally.
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i see i see... maybe i should find out how they improved it in the 4.1 :3 thank you all!!
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The only class I find boring is priest.
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Hmmm. I just lost a CL30 Paladin to an AMHD, with a single poison breath (after failing a Portal spell to get away.) And I just. Didn't. Care. The class has the same problem as Ranger: weaker early (especially with the disastrous stealth) and too strong late. Having to deal with Every. Single. Monster being awake gets old *fast*. And there are only a couple early spells that are even worth spit: Portal, Mapping, SI, temporary resist fire & cold. I'd rather play Ranger. It's not a bad class for newbies, who are leery about slow diving. In fact, my very first winner was a Dwarf Paladin with a MoD (Holy Avenger). But now, it's by far my least favorite class.
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