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Old November 3, 2017, 16:17   #1
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The horned reaper tramples over Atlas, the Titan...

Dunno, but that's hard to imagine...
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Old November 3, 2017, 16:40   #2
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Are uniques not immune to trample?
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Old November 4, 2017, 14:42   #3
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Are uniques not immune to trample?
They are not. Huan is known to trample many low-level uniques. They just show up again on another level though.
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But surely mobs with trample should be immune to trampling ?
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Old November 5, 2017, 15:05   #5
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But surely mobs with trample should be immune to trampling ?
I don't see it the same way as an elemental immunity. Just because one monster is powerful enough, big enough, strong enough, to trample, there's always a bigger, more powerful monster. (Although Atlas isn't a "mob" with trample, this Titan being trampled by a Horned Reaper does sound strange. Maybe it was a very small percentage chance and the Horned Reaper got insanely lucky.)
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IIRC trampling depends solely on the monster's level, i.e. their native depth. If the monster in their way is lower-level, then it gets trampled. Horned Reapers have a very high native depth, so they can trample just about anything in the game.
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IIRC trampling depends solely on the monster's level, i.e. their native depth. If the monster in their way is lower-level, then it gets trampled. Horned Reapers have a very high native depth, so they can trample just about anything in the game.
It's actually a straight comparison on base experience for killing the monster, as recorded in the
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experience:
line in monster.txt. The actual experience the player gets is
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(base experience * monster depth) / player level
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Huh, interesting. I guess experience is probably a better metric for "how strong is this monster" than native depth.
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Well it feels really wrong that Atlas only gives 7k xp when you compare him with everything else at depth 76: master quylthulg 15k, bronze golem 26k, Ungoliant 35k, Great Wyrm of Law 26k...
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In fact, looking at all the uniques in monster.txt, Atlas having only 7k xp is clearly a bug. Every unique past 2000ft gives more xp than that. Also one of the most dangerous unique with low xp reward is Kavlax: 3k (7-headed hydra 2k, Uvatha 10k). Should probably been pumped up too.
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