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Old February 2, 2017, 03:43   #11
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What about rings? What rings have you found? (Not sure if I have ever encountered Angrist).

What do you typically find around DL80s?
I have found the elven rings many times and I seem to find exceptional "superb" weapons (the broad sword I spoke of had 20+ to hit and dam).

I'm sorry you have never gotten Angrist. It is one of my favorite from a lore perspective and its stats are actually quite good
Angrist'
base-object:sword: Dagger
info:20:12:100000
alloc:2:20 to 100
power:0:2d4:10:15:5
flags:FREE_ACT | SUST_DEX |
values: DEX[4] | BRAND_ACID[3] | SLAY_EVIL[2] | SLAY_TROLL[3] | SLAY_ORC[3]
values:RES_ACID[1] | RES_DARK[1]
Forged by Telchar, greatest of Dwarven smiths, and used by Beren to gouge a Silmaril out of Morgoth's crown, this long chopping dagger slices through ordinary metal as easily as its name, "Iron Cleaver", suggests.
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Old February 2, 2017, 07:43   #12
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clean out every DL and by DL10 you will probably have one of the three daggers. happens so often that we've been considering nerfing them.
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Old February 2, 2017, 16:13   #13
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clean out every DL and by DL10 you will probably have one of the three daggers. happens so often that we've been considering nerfing them.
Really?
That might explain why I have never gotten those daggers till later. I usually dive to 15+ before I really start doing any clearing.
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Old February 2, 2017, 16:28   #14
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You're playing with level feelings on tho, right? If you get a 6 feeling early you should clear the level; there's a decent chance it's a thanc.
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Old February 2, 2017, 17:12   #15
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You're playing with level feelings on tho, right? If you get a 6 feeling early you should clear the level; there's a decent chance it's a thanc.
I used to find them all the time, but now it's pretty rare that I don't find a down stair before a level feeling shows up, so I dive right past them. Finding any *thanc or the phial at all are uncommon events for me these days, and it's not all rare for me to be DL60 or lower before I get my hands on my first artifact.
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I used to find them all the time, but now it's pretty rare that I don't find a down stair before a level feeling shows up, so I dive right past them. Finding any *thanc or the phial at all are uncommon events for me these days, and it's not all rare for me to be DL60 or lower before I get my hands on my first artifact.
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There is a guy that feels my pain.

I know that in the older versions (year 2000 or so) I used to find Phial before I hit DL15. Were there any other significant changes to artifact drop rates since then? Until last month I still had a version from years ago (charisma was still a stat) but my old Tobisha finally crashed and got a new computer so I had to find a new download. I had no idea that rephial was a site until then. I was still looking for thandogrim.

Yes I play with level feeling.

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Old February 2, 2017, 20:35   #17
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^I know that in the older versions (year 2000 or so) I used to find Phial before I hit DL15. Were there any other significant changes to artifact drop rates since then? Until last month I still had a version from years ago (charisma was still a stat) but my old Tobisha finally crashed and got a new computer so I had to find a new download. I had no idea that rephial was a site until then. I was still looking for thandogrim.
The Phial specifically got moved to substantially later in the dungeon to give light source upgrades more meaning. Torches were also dropped back down to radius-1 after having been radius-2 for awhile, and several ego light sources were added.

Overall rarity of artifacts gets tweaked relatively often, so very likely they're different from what you remember.
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For the most part, lantern of seeing is better than the Phil in any case. And I generally find one first.
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Well damn... RIP. Phased door (had been identifying loot from a monster room so that was the last of my mana) from a Master Mystic right into a Vampire Lord, drained my wand of TO, so I drink my restore mana pot then failed TS 3 times. Was a decent run though. Rouges are by far my least favorite to play.
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I've had games where I get my multiple consecutive fail rates out of the way when there was little/no consequence (such as failing multiple times to TO something sleeping I don't want to deal with) and then succeeding in a long consecutive streak when it mattered. It's interesting even after all my deaths, dying still surprises me when it happens.

I've been playing a lot of high-elf warrior lately. I think it is the easiest combination to play. I especially like it because I start out with 4.3 blows a round. What combo do you prefer?
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