Preparation for 4.1 release - Page 4

kandrc · May 27, 2017, 04:10

There also still exists a somewhat rare crash when generating levels. I don't know if it's been reported. I've seen it twice, but while not executing in the debugger. I'll try to stair-scum to reproduce for a stack trace...

Nick · May 27, 2017, 06:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by kandrc

There also still exists a somewhat rare crash when generating levels. I don't know if it's been reported. I've seen it twice, but while not executing in the debugger. I'll try to stair-scum to reproduce for a stack trace...

Yeah, there's a level generation crash - I believe on attempting to generate labyrinth levels - which usually generates an assertion fail on a grid being in bounds. I'll make a thorough attempt to track it down at some stage soon.

Thanks for the -w info too - I'll check that.

Gwarl · May 27, 2017, 11:03

Unsure if this is a bug but I just found a randart torch..

Nick · May 28, 2017, 00:03

I have a possible bug filed for store prices being too low. There was a bug in object property calculations which would have been affecting prices. Are people seeing problems with prices?

(Gwarl - randart torches are expected now).

Gwarl · May 28, 2017, 00:05

As far as selling goes, every nightly I've played with selling on, I've been able to sell items for 2/3rds of the buying price - whether unID'd or not. Can't say I've noticed anything unusual about buying - just selling.

Nomad · May 28, 2017, 01:42

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Originally Posted by Nick

I have a possible bug filed for store prices being too low. There was a bug in object property calculations which would have been affecting prices. Are people seeing problems with prices?

Lights, diggers and armour are all significantly cheaper than in 4.0.4. Prices for weapons, jewellery and non-equippable items don't seem to have changed.

Quick price comparison of some items in the latest nightly vs 4.0.4 price:

Code:

Wooden Torch:              1 vs 6
Cloak:                     1 vs 6
Shovel:                   24 vs 66
Pick:                     50 vs 176

Soft Leather Armour:      50 vs 84
Studded Leather Armour:  104 vs 150
Leather Scale Mail:      456 vs 546
Wicker Shield:             1 vs 14
Leather Shield:           36 vs 66
Hard Leather Cap:          6 vs 14
Metal Cap:                 6 vs 26
Leather Sandals:           1 vs 6
Iron Shod Boots:          50 vs 84

Black Market Lantern:     72 vs 1638

On the other hand, some pricing issues do seem to have been improved - (Everburning) Lanterns were selling for the same price as standard lanterns in the BM (72 AU) before but have now jumped up to 312 (still way too low, obviously), and I feel like gloves/boots of Free Action may have jumped in price too.

Nick · May 28, 2017, 03:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nomad

Quick price comparison of some items in the latest nightly vs 4.0.4 price

Thanks, that is super helpful.

Ingwe Ingweron · May 28, 2017, 12:24

Should innate characteristics provide automatic knowledge of an associated rune? E.g., kobold has rPoison, or hobbit has Hold Life, innately. But their only way to learn the associated rune is to use a ? Identify. That doesn't seem right.

Nick · May 28, 2017, 12:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ingwe Ingweron

Should innate characteristics provide automatic knowledge of an associated rune? E.g., kobold has rPoison, or hobbit has Hold Life, innately. But their only way to learn the associated rune is to use a ? Identify. That doesn't seem right.

I think this is more or less covered by this bug; see also this post and subsequent discussion.

Nick · May 28, 2017, 13:57

New builds up on the nightlies page, changes are:

Extra (+0, +0) in descriptions of artifact and ego armors has been removed
Prices have been adjusted; lights and diggers are now back to 4.0.x prices - low AC items are still quite a bit cheaper, but I'm inclined to think that's OK
Randart torches and lanterns should no longer be labelled (charging)
Game can make html dumps without crashing

I also spent quite a long time looking for the assertion fail crash on level generation with no success; any more info on that will be most welcome.

May 28, 2017, 00:03	#34
Nick Vanilla maintainer Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Canberra, Australia Age: 53 Posts: 7,141 Donated: $60	I have a possible bug filed for store prices being too low. There was a bug in object property calculations which would have been affecting prices. Are people seeing problems with prices? (Gwarl - randart torches are expected now). __________________ One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

May 28, 2017, 12:24	#38
Ingwe Ingweron Veteran Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Manhattan Beach, CA Posts: 1,633	Should innate characteristics provide automatic knowledge of an associated rune? E.g., kobold has rPoison, or hobbit has Hold Life, innately. But their only way to learn the associated rune is to use a ? Identify. That doesn't seem right. __________________ “We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see.” ― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead

May 28, 2017, 13:57	#40
Nick Vanilla maintainer Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Canberra, Australia Age: 53 Posts: 7,141 Donated: $60	New builds up on the nightlies page, changes are: Extra (+0, +0) in descriptions of artifact and ego armors has been removed Prices have been adjusted; lights and diggers are now back to 4.0.x prices - low AC items are still quite a bit cheaper, but I'm inclined to think that's OK Randart torches and lanterns should no longer be labelled (charging) Game can make html dumps without crashing I also spent quite a long time looking for the assertion fail crash on level generation with no success; any more info on that will be most welcome. __________________ One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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May 27, 2017, 04:10	#31
kandrc Swordsman Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 281	There also still exists a somewhat rare crash when generating levels. I don't know if it's been reported. I've seen it twice, but while not executing in the debugger. I'll try to stair-scum to reproduce for a stack trace...

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Gwarl Knight Join Date: Jan 2017 Posts: 572	Unsure if this is a bug but I just found a randart torch..

May 28, 2017, 00:05	#35
Gwarl Knight Join Date: Jan 2017 Posts: 572	As far as selling goes, every nightly I've played with selling on, I've been able to sell items for 2/3rds of the buying price - whether unID'd or not. Can't say I've noticed anything unusual about buying - just selling.

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