Ring of Damage vs Stat gain ring

icefyre · May 30, 2017, 17:06

hello all,

Was hoping someone would have a clear opinion on this.
Have the choice of a Ring of Damage +7 or a Ring of Dex + 3.
Damage seems almost identical when I swap them out. Differences I can see are:
Dex gives me 5.5 blows vs 4.7 blows with Ring of Damage.
Dex ring sustains dexterity. (Don't have dex sustain from other equipment now)
Ring of Damage has slightly (very slightly) more damage output.

Is there a clear winner? See attached screenshots for stats with either ring.

Thanks!

Gwarl · May 30, 2017, 19:06

I'd go with dexterity.

Philip · May 30, 2017, 21:56

Ring of Dex is better because of sustain dex and less theft. Also, more blows is usually better, at least until a flat monster dr is implemented. At your blows/round it's largely irrelevant, since you're always going to hit on at least one blow anyway, and I'm quite fuzzy on the math, but in most situations, more chances for less damage is more likely to lead to a good result than more damage with fewer chances.

Gwarl · May 30, 2017, 22:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Philip

Ring of Dex is better because of sustain dex and less theft. Also, more blows is usually better, at least until a flat monster dr is implemented. At your blows/round it's largely irrelevant, since you're always going to hit on at least one blow anyway, and I'm quite fuzzy on the math, but in most situations, more chances for less damage is more likely to lead to a good result than more damage with fewer chances.

Less likely to lead to a bad result to be pedantic about it.

Estie · May 31, 2017, 00:01

Objectively, dex ring is all so slightly better (sustain > damage gain). Personally, I would use this opportunity to squelch dex rings and use the damage ring (less clutter > all alternatives). Eventually youll end up with damage ring anyway.

Ingwe Ingweron · May 31, 2017, 04:16

It depends. The answer will change over time depending upon the @s then current Dexterity and the weight of the @s then primary weapon. Also whether sustaining the Dexterity stat is a current concern. Check the damage per round of the weapon when wearing each ring (I'm assuming you cannot wear both, because you have a speed ring or another damage ring or some such in the other ring slot). Compare the damage, and go with the one that is higher. For example, if the Dex ring gives higher damage output with the principal weapon, then use the Dex ring, but keep the damage ring in inventory or at home. Once @'s Dex is increased by stat gain potions or by other equipment bonuses, do the comparison again. Also do the comparison again when @ changes the principal weapon. At some point, the Damage ring will likely outclass the Dex bonus. Another consideration is the @ class. If @ is a ranger, then Dex is more critical for the use of a bow. The damage ring has no effect upon the damage of arrows, but the Dex ring can affect the to-hit chances for the arrows.

Pete Mack · May 31, 2017, 05:06

I'm with Estie--DEX rings have an extremely short useful lifetime. Once your hitting over four blows with a decent weapon, DEX very quickly becomes obsolete. You'll find a better damage ring (or something else) soon enough. The answer is: it doesn't matter a bit, so might as well go with damage. Liches are pretty rare anyway.

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May 30, 2017, 17:06	#1
icefyre Scout Join Date: Nov 2016 Posts: 35	Ring of Damage vs Stat gain ring hello all, Was hoping someone would have a clear opinion on this. Have the choice of a Ring of Damage +7 or a Ring of Dex + 3. Damage seems almost identical when I swap them out. Differences I can see are: Dex gives me 5.5 blows vs 4.7 blows with Ring of Damage. Dex ring sustains dexterity. (Don't have dex sustain from other equipment now) Ring of Damage has slightly (very slightly) more damage output. Is there a clear winner? See attached screenshots for stats with either ring. Thanks! Attached Thumbnails Last edited by icefyre; May 30, 2017 at 17:57.

May 31, 2017, 04:16	#6
Ingwe Ingweron Veteran Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Manhattan Beach, CA Posts: 2,115	It depends. The answer will change over time depending upon the @s then current Dexterity and the weight of the @s then primary weapon. Also whether sustaining the Dexterity stat is a current concern. Check the damage per round of the weapon when wearing each ring (I'm assuming you cannot wear both, because you have a speed ring or another damage ring or some such in the other ring slot). Compare the damage, and go with the one that is higher. For example, if the Dex ring gives higher damage output with the principal weapon, then use the Dex ring, but keep the damage ring in inventory or at home. Once @'s Dex is increased by stat gain potions or by other equipment bonuses, do the comparison again. Also do the comparison again when @ changes the principal weapon. At some point, the Damage ring will likely outclass the Dex bonus. Another consideration is the @ class. If @ is a ranger, then Dex is more critical for the use of a bow. The damage ring has no effect upon the damage of arrows, but the Dex ring can affect the to-hit chances for the arrows. __________________ “We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see.” ― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead

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May 30, 2017, 19:06	#2
Gwarl Knight Join Date: Jan 2017 Posts: 930	I'd go with dexterity.

May 30, 2017, 21:56	#3
Philip Knight Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Prague,Czech Republic Posts: 909	Ring of Dex is better because of sustain dex and less theft. Also, more blows is usually better, at least until a flat monster dr is implemented. At your blows/round it's largely irrelevant, since you're always going to hit on at least one blow anyway, and I'm quite fuzzy on the math, but in most situations, more chances for less damage is more likely to lead to a good result than more damage with fewer chances.

May 31, 2017, 00:01	#5
Estie Veteran Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 2,077	Objectively, dex ring is all so slightly better (sustain > damage gain). Personally, I would use this opportunity to squelch dex rings and use the damage ring (less clutter > all alternatives). Eventually youll end up with damage ring anyway.

May 31, 2017, 05:06	#7
Pete Mack Prophet Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 6,677 Donated: $40	I'm with Estie--DEX rings have an extremely short useful lifetime. Once your hitting over four blows with a decent weapon, DEX very quickly becomes obsolete. You'll find a better damage ring (or something else) soon enough. The answer is: it doesn't matter a bit, so might as well go with damage. Liches are pretty rare anyway.

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