Storage Question!

Incandenza · October 30, 2018, 15:11

Hi there,

Long time roguelike player with years of Angband and Nethack under my belt.

Haven't dug into ToME before, and I'm loving it so far.

I have a question I've searched around for, and can't seem to find an answer to.

The guide refers to building 8 as being my house that I can store things in, only in Bree there's no 8. There's a 7 and a 9, but no home.

Is this a bug or was this taken out at some point? I'm playing a Half-Ogre Warrior, and running 2.3.5 if that info is useful.

Anyone? While I do like the idea of having to make hard decisions about what's in my Inventory...I would love to stash some things I might need for later!

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks!

Derakon · October 30, 2018, 15:34

The leader of each town will give you a quest to clear out some local monsters in exchange for being able to use their den as your house. In Bree, you need to deal with some low-level 'p' enemies, the strongest being a Bandit.

Incandenza · October 30, 2018, 15:56

Amazing, thank you! Off to kill some bandits!

Cheers!

Pete Mack · October 30, 2018, 20:53

@Incandenza Starting with the quest is almost always a mistake. You want to kill a low risk high EXP monster before passing CL1. The thieves' quest won't do it. A red naga in the stream south of bree is a better target. (Just watch out for hydras.)
Just figure out a plan. (!Hero and a sling or !oil will do it.)

Derakon · October 30, 2018, 21:27

Ehh, it's up to you. I like starting with the thieve's quest because it's challenging while often still being achievable, and killing random wildlife always felt cheesy to me. Not that it's easy to avoid cheese in ToME, mind, but you don't have to go seeking it out.

Incandenza · October 30, 2018, 23:01

Thanks for the advice - I should have also mentioned my Half-Ogre was pretty beefy by the time I realized there was no home building - he was more than robust enough to tear through those low rent thugs!

Though I did then later make the mistake of taking on the nearby Trolls and got seriously owned! Ha!

Pete Mack · October 31, 2018, 00:34

Yeah with a half-ogre, your plab doesn't need to be very complicated. Just set your stsnce to fast aggressive (USE MACROS FOR STANCE.) Head south and let the naga come to you.

fph · October 31, 2018, 07:58

There is a quest screen (ctrl+Q if I remember correctly?) where the approximate level of each quest is displayed, so you can avoid going in too early. I think the trolls are level 30. It's sort-of accurate, but there are some surprises.
As usual, spoilers help a lot, or otherwise there's the old fashioned way to learn in roguelikes, the one that uses lots of tombstone screens.

Pete Mack · October 31, 2018, 08:20

Yeah, the trolls are tough. You can take them early IF you really optimize your skills. (Also, the early quests are all easy for archer class.)

Yottle · October 31, 2018, 11:50

Any warrior character should be able to handle the thieves quest immediately. If you have your speed set to running you are faster than any of the thieves. Just stay in the corridor so only one can come at you at a time and back up at the right time so they can't hit you. The first kill will get you to level 2 and after that you can probably kill all of them with one blow.
The other easy town quest is the wolves in Lothlorien. By the time you can get there without being ambushed and killed they are trivial. I wouldn't try any of the other town quests until you have a buffed-up level 30 character.

October 30, 2018, 15:11	#1
Incandenza Rookie Join Date: Oct 2018 Posts: 5	Storage Question! Hi there, Long time roguelike player with years of Angband and Nethack under my belt. Haven't dug into ToME before, and I'm loving it so far. I have a question I've searched around for, and can't seem to find an answer to. The guide refers to building 8 as being my house that I can store things in, only in Bree there's no 8. There's a 7 and a 9, but no home. Is this a bug or was this taken out at some point? I'm playing a Half-Ogre Warrior, and running 2.3.5 if that info is useful. Anyone? While I do like the idea of having to make hard decisions about what's in my Inventory...I would love to stash some things I might need for later! Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!

October 31, 2018, 07:58	#8
fph Knight Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Pisa / DL0 Posts: 971	There is a quest screen (ctrl+Q if I remember correctly?) where the approximate level of each quest is displayed, so you can avoid going in too early. I think the trolls are level 30. It's sort-of accurate, but there are some surprises. As usual, spoilers help a lot, or otherwise there's the old fashioned way to learn in roguelikes, the one that uses lots of tombstone screens. __________________ Dive fast, die young, leave a high-CHA corpse. -- You read a scroll labeled 'lol gtfo' of Teleport Level.

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October 30, 2018, 15:34	#2
Derakon Prophet Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 9,024	The leader of each town will give you a quest to clear out some local monsters in exchange for being able to use their den as your house. In Bree, you need to deal with some low-level 'p' enemies, the strongest being a Bandit.

October 30, 2018, 15:56	#3
Incandenza Rookie Join Date: Oct 2018 Posts: 5	Amazing, thank you! Off to kill some bandits! Cheers!

October 30, 2018, 20:53	#4
Pete Mack Prophet Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 6,213 Donated: $40	@Incandenza Starting with the quest is almost always a mistake. You want to kill a low risk high EXP monster before passing CL1. The thieves' quest won't do it. A red naga in the stream south of bree is a better target. (Just watch out for hydras.) Just figure out a plan. (!Hero and a sling or !oil will do it.)

October 30, 2018, 21:27	#5
Derakon Prophet Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 9,024	Ehh, it's up to you. I like starting with the thieve's quest because it's challenging while often still being achievable, and killing random wildlife always felt cheesy to me. Not that it's easy to avoid cheese in ToME, mind, but you don't have to go seeking it out.

October 30, 2018, 23:01	#6
Incandenza Rookie Join Date: Oct 2018 Posts: 5	Thanks for the advice - I should have also mentioned my Half-Ogre was pretty beefy by the time I realized there was no home building - he was more than robust enough to tear through those low rent thugs! Though I did then later make the mistake of taking on the nearby Trolls and got seriously owned! Ha!

October 31, 2018, 00:34	#7
Pete Mack Prophet Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 6,213 Donated: $40	Yeah with a half-ogre, your plab doesn't need to be very complicated. Just set your stsnce to fast aggressive (USE MACROS FOR STANCE.) Head south and let the naga come to you.

October 31, 2018, 08:20	#9
Pete Mack Prophet Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 6,213 Donated: $40	Yeah, the trolls are tough. You can take them early IF you really optimize your skills. (Also, the early quests are all easy for archer class.)

October 31, 2018, 11:50	#10
Yottle Scout Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: West Virginia Posts: 34	Any warrior character should be able to handle the thieves quest immediately. If you have your speed set to running you are faster than any of the thieves. Just stay in the corridor so only one can come at you at a time and back up at the right time so they can't hit you. The first kill will get you to level 2 and after that you can probably kill all of them with one blow. The other easy town quest is the wolves in Lothlorien. By the time you can get there without being ambushed and killed they are trivial. I wouldn't try any of the other town quests until you have a buffed-up level 30 character.

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