Why no potions of resist lightning/acid?

PowerWyrm · March 12, 2020, 21:04

Facing high level monsters that can breathe lightning or acid for 1600 damage is really harsh without double resistance. Why do we have potions of resist fire/cold but no potions of resist lightning/acid?

Note: most variants do have these, or at least potions of resistance.

Ingwe Ingweron · March 12, 2020, 22:26

Just waiting for the inevitable post from Nick - FA has this!

Pete Mack · March 12, 2020, 23:05

Because people wouldn't bother carrying them. Acid damage is effectively capped at 800 because of armor reduction, and has 1/6 CHP damage. It is the weakest element of the 5. Powerful electricity breath is pretty rare. So why waste inventory slots? Fire and Cold, on the other hand, are dangerous and common.

Edit: and the game is more interesting with a hole for one element.

Derakon · March 12, 2020, 23:05

Acid at least you get a halving as long as you're wearing armor in every slot. Electricity...just be careful I guess!

tangar · March 13, 2020, 07:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete Mack

Because people wouldn't bother carrying them. Acid damage is effectively capped at 800 because of armor reduction, and has 1/6 CHP damage. It is the weakest element of the 5.

is it hardcoded? Cause projection.txt got:

Quote:

code:ACID
name:acid
type:element
desc:acid
player-desc:acid
blind-desc:acid
lash-desc:acid
numerator:1
denominator:3
divisor:3
damage-cap:1600
msgt:BR_ACID
obvious:1
color:Slate

wobbly · March 13, 2020, 08:30

Tangar acid is halved if you have armour in every slot, so its effectively half that.

Mondkalb · March 13, 2020, 10:49

Are there artifacts that activate for resistance?
Would be nice to have those after the spells have been removed.

PowerWyrm · March 13, 2020, 11:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by wobbly

Tangar acid is halved if you have armour in every slot, so its effectively half that.

Is it actually halved every time.. not only when armor is damaged? I need to check that...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mondkalb

Are there artifacts that activate for resistance?
Would be nice to have those after the spells have been removed.

The cloak 'Colluin'. But you're not sure to find this every time, and in the multiplayer variant which we play only one player will be able to get it, unless you're lucky with a randart.

Sphara · March 13, 2020, 12:03

There are Rings of Lightning but I'd rather ignore powerful elec-breathers, than carry one those to the deep end of the game.

For me it's Colluin, immunity or no fight at all. Potion of Resistance as a deep item doesn't sound a bad idea at all.

Pete Mack · March 13, 2020, 12:32

@PowerWyrm -- acid damage is halved so long as the armor isn't degraded all the way to 0 AC.

March 12, 2020, 21:04	#1
PowerWyrm Prophet Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 2,832	Why no potions of resist lightning/acid? Facing high level monsters that can breathe lightning or acid for 1600 damage is really harsh without double resistance. Why do we have potions of resist fire/cold but no potions of resist lightning/acid? Note: most variants do have these, or at least potions of resistance. __________________ PWMAngband variant maintainer - check http://powerwyrm.monsite-orange.fr (or http://www.mangband.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=9) to learn more about this new variant!

March 12, 2020, 22:26	#2
Ingwe Ingweron Veteran Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Manhattan Beach, CA Posts: 2,006	Just waiting for the inevitable post from Nick - FA has this! __________________ “We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see.” ― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead

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Mondkalb Knight Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 955	Are there artifacts that activate for resistance? Would be nice to have those after the spells have been removed. __________________ My Angband winners so far My FAangband efforts so far

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March 12, 2020, 23:05	#3
Pete Mack Prophet Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 5,989 Donated: $40	Because people wouldn't bother carrying them. Acid damage is effectively capped at 800 because of armor reduction, and has 1/6 CHP damage. It is the weakest element of the 5. Powerful electricity breath is pretty rare. So why waste inventory slots? Fire and Cold, on the other hand, are dangerous and common. Edit: and the game is more interesting with a hole for one element.

March 12, 2020, 23:05	#4
Derakon Prophet Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 9,024	Acid at least you get a halving as long as you're wearing armor in every slot. Electricity...just be careful I guess!

March 13, 2020, 08:30	#6
wobbly Veteran Join Date: May 2012 Location: Adelaide, Australia Posts: 2,433	Tangar acid is halved if you have armour in every slot, so its effectively half that.

March 13, 2020, 12:03	#9
Sphara Swordsman Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Finland Posts: 417	There are Rings of Lightning but I'd rather ignore powerful elec-breathers, than carry one those to the deep end of the game. For me it's Colluin, immunity or no fight at all. Potion of Resistance as a deep item doesn't sound a bad idea at all.

March 13, 2020, 12:32	#10
Pete Mack Prophet Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 5,989 Donated: $40	@PowerWyrm -- acid damage is halved so long as the armor isn't degraded all the way to 0 AC.

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