Angband.oook.cz
Angband.oook.cz
AboutVariantsLadderForumCompetitionComicScreenshotsFunniesLinks

Go Back   Angband Forums > Angband > Vanilla

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old April 21, 2022, 16:23   #11
Pete Mack
Prophet
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 6,681
Donated: $40
Pete Mack is on a distinguished road
For necromancer,
Haruspex
Hex-maker
Sorteligus
Diabolist
Pete Mack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 21, 2022, 18:59   #12
Djabanete
Knight
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 569
Djabanete is on a distinguished road
My own attempt below. I followed Skyknight's idea of making all titles gender-neutral, but I believe this version is even more strict; for example, I've used Cleric instead of Priest. I also avoided words not found in a dictionary.

Blackguard doesn't actually mean anything close to "evil paladin," so I prefer Marauder or Nemesis, but I suppose I'm in the minority there.

+ CLERIC + (instead of Priest)
Acolyte
Scribe
Chaplain
Cleric
Healer
Seer
Diviner
Oracle
Prophet

+ DRUID +
Naturalist
Disciple
Sage
Ascetic
Soothsayer
Shaman
Druid
Hierophant
Great Druid

+ MAGE +
Apprentice
Scholar
Alchemist
Illusionist
Conjuror
Thaumaturge
Mage
High Mage

+ MARAUDER + (instead of Blackguard)
Hellion
Brigand
Raider
Skirmisher
Marauder
Reaver
Slayer
Vanquisher
Oppressor
Nemesis
Arch Nemesis

+ NECROMANCER +
Initiate
Augur
Haruspex
Ritualist
Medium
Occultist
Warlock
Necromancer

+ PALADIN +
Warden
Guardian
Sentinel
Protector
Defender
Knight
Avenger
Paladin
Arbiter
Justiciar
High Paladin

+ RANGER +
Scout
Pathfinder
Tracker
Hunter
Sharpshooter
Ranger
Elite Ranger
Ranger Captain

+ ROGUE +
Burglar
Trickster
Thief
Rogue
Treasure Hunter
Expert Treasure Hunter
Infiltrator
Ringleader
Guild Leader
Mastermind

+ WARRIOR +
Fighter
Soldier
Warrior
Elite Warrior
Swashbuckler
Lieutenant
Captain
Marshal
War Leader
Champion
High Champion

Last edited by Djabanete; April 21, 2022 at 19:13.
Djabanete is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 21, 2022, 19:06   #13
Skyknight
Rookie
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 13
Skyknight is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by ewert View Post
Honestly by this point I would be fine with calling it a level 1 Paladin ...

*eyeroll*

But to each their own strokes.
I thought of that, actually, although I can see people wanting titles as additional fluff.

But the titles we have are in large part from AD&D 1e: https://dungeonsdragons.fandom.com/wiki/Level_title

(I know. Lama in the titles of a very European-mold cleric class? Hmph.)
Skyknight is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 24, 2022, 17:26   #14
m0stlym0nk
Scout
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 25
m0stlym0nk is on a distinguished road
I would also be on the side that says the less lines of non-important text present, the better. There's always a wealth of things that can be useful to show the player. A fluff title doesn't strike me as one of them, when it comes to the main screen.
m0stlym0nk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 24, 2022, 22:04   #15
Nick
Vanilla maintainer
 
Nick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Canberra, Australia
Age: 57
Posts: 9,367
Donated: $60
Nick will become famous soon enoughNick will become famous soon enough
I wouldn't care overly if we ditched the titles altogether.
__________________
One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.
Nick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 25, 2022, 05:00   #16
Djabanete
Knight
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 569
Djabanete is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nick View Post
I wouldn't care overly if we ditched the titles altogether.
That would work.
Djabanete is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 25, 2022, 15:46   #17
Selkie
Swordsman
 
Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: London
Posts: 425
Selkie is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nick View Post
I wouldn't care overly if we ditched the titles altogether.
Exactly this. I only occasionaly notice the title but I'm constantly aware of the number.

I don't see how adding titles adds anything to the gameplay or even the role-playing aspect of the game. The titles are so enigmatic that we can't even decide among ourselves what means what and why.

This entire thread proves there will never be a natural order of titles, everybody has their own idea of what a hellion is and how powerful that ought to be etc.
Selkie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 26, 2022, 03:50   #18
ewert
Knight
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 654
ewert is on a distinguished road
Yep, I only entertained the idea for the fun of it if someone wanted to change the game for themselves.

My vote is for numbers.
ewert is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 4, 2022, 22:07   #19
Skyknight
Rookie
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 13
Skyknight is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by Selkie View Post
Exactly this. I only occasionaly notice the title but I'm constantly aware of the number.

I don't see how adding titles adds anything to the gameplay or even the role-playing aspect of the game. The titles are so enigmatic that we can't even decide among ourselves what means what and why.

This entire thread proves there will never be a natural order of titles, everybody has their own idea of what a hellion is and how powerful that ought to be etc.
I'm pretty sure the titles are just a holdover from (A)D&D1e. Notice how long it took to abolish Charisma from the game, probably simply because that was a holdover from D&D.
Skyknight is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 12, 2022, 05:00   #20
Raerick
Scout
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Posts: 48
Raerick is on a distinguished road
I vote for removing titles. They are essentially meaningless to the game and imply a sort of hierarchy that an organization might have.

I also find it repulsive to care about the gender of words as if it is some sort of problem to fix. For example 'warrior' has always had masculine inclination simply because naturally women are inferior warriors. That is simply a fact of life and words that were meant to express meaning reflect those facts. Does this mean a woman can't be a warrior? No, but it does mean that female warrior has taken a masculine occupation. Removing the gender from words doesn't have an effect on the facts nor does it create equality. All it does is obscure and distort.

There isn't some imaginary patriarchy keeping your imaginary female character from advancing in life just because her imaginary title has masculine connotation. That imaginary female character isn't more validated as a female just because she has a gender neutral title.

Newspeak is cancerous thought control that doesn't benefit the average person one bit and instead benefits machiavellian politicians.
Raerick is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Suppress scroll titles once identified? eastwind Vanilla 24 December 25, 2019 17:21
Just checking - starting a new game won't affect a saved game with another char? Petoften Vanilla 1 July 11, 2018 09:15
Sil : Playing this game for a couple of days, feeling frustrated, looking for advice Ripplez Sil 10 June 8, 2013 22:40
Different character class, different game. Fendell Orcbane Vanilla 5 September 16, 2010 17:54
@ shouldn't sense scrolls titles when blind fph Vanilla 10 May 7, 2010 20:49


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 22:52.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2022, vBulletin Solutions Inc.