Competition 144 - Page 2

chris · September 4, 2013, 01:42

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Originally Posted by nppangband

Yes, it is. The original creator of Moria took each player victory as his own defeat, and tried to "fix" the game so that whatever that person did to win wouldn't work again. For example, I believe he made the balrog pass through walls after somebody used pillar dancing to win.

Aw, come on ... Pillar dancing is clearly cheating!!

Wraitheist · September 4, 2013, 18:23

Wow, that's an interesting approach to design! Quite the achievement when you manage to win anyway, I'd imagine!

nppangband · September 5, 2013, 00:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wraitheist

Wow, that's an interesting approach to design! Quite the achievement when you manage to win anyway, I'd imagine!

Well, bear in mind this was the mid 80s, when the typical video game experience was putting a quarter in an arcade machine and you just tried to survive for 5-10 minutes. So the idea of being able to save a character and play it again the next day was pretty great at the time. And having an actual winning objective, regardless of how hard it was, was fairly amazing.

But yes, fast forward to today, where checkpoints are a gaming standard, and "one game, one life is almost nonexistent, and it seems pretty harsh.

As for the competition, mages start out as weak characters, but end up the strongest. So the good news is that most deaths will happen after 15 minutes of play, but if you survive the first couple hours you are well on your way to winning.

DaviddesJ · September 6, 2013, 07:41

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Originally Posted by nppangband

12) Finally, don't ignore those molds and jellies. In Moria some of them are worth *alot* of xp for their level.

But, for the competition, xp are bad....

Nick · September 6, 2013, 09:34

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Originally Posted by DaviddesJ

But, for the competition, xp are bad....

Only if you win

nppangband · September 6, 2013, 11:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaviddesJ

But, for the competition, xp are bad....

I meant for quick leveling up. At around character levels 5 and 15, there are easy kill molds and jellies that can take you up a full level.

murphy · September 6, 2013, 20:28

I got some error messsages posting my update (winner!), but seems like it still showed up on there :-)

Replacing your older dump...
Dump copied successfully...
BIGINT UNSIGNED value is out of range in '(`v_exp` * `angband`.`ladder`.`exp`)'
Warning: mysql_fetch_array() expects parameter 1 to be resource, boolean given in /home/pav/www/angband/ladder-submit.php on line 156

nppangband · September 6, 2013, 22:19

Congratulations, Murphy!

I just uploaded new zip files at the NPP fan site with fixes for all reported bugs . I didn't want to change the version number or links because of the NPPMoria comp going on right now, but here are the fixes:

NPP 7.1.0:
Bugfix: Composite bows were not working properly.
Bugfix: Fix swap weapons with the roguelike keyset
Bugfix: Fix height and weight ranges for all Moria races.
Bugfix: Fix shortened names for Orcs ad Orc Warriors
Bugfix: Rangers could not read or cast from the mage spellset.
Bugfix: Create food spell was broken.
Bugfix: Equipment activations for were not working.

Nick · September 20, 2013, 13:01

Competition 144 is now officially finished - congratulations to murphy for the only game winner.

September 6, 2013, 22:19	#18
nppangband NPPAngband Maintainer Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Stat Gain, Angband Posts: 926	Congratulations, Murphy! I just uploaded new zip files at the NPP fan site with fixes for all reported bugs . I didn't want to change the version number or links because of the NPPMoria comp going on right now, but here are the fixes: NPP 7.1.0: Bugfix: Composite bows were not working properly. Bugfix: Fix swap weapons with the roguelike keyset Bugfix: Fix height and weight ranges for all Moria races. Bugfix: Fix shortened names for Orcs ad Orc Warriors Bugfix: Rangers could not read or cast from the mage spellset. Bugfix: Create food spell was broken. Bugfix: Equipment activations for were not working. __________________ NPPAngband current home page: http://nppangband.bitshepherd.net/ Source code repository: https://github.com/nppangband/NPPAngband_QT Downloads: https://app.box.com/s/1x7k65ghsmc31usmj329pb8415n1ux57

September 20, 2013, 13:01	#19
Nick Vanilla maintainer Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Canberra, Australia Age: 55 Posts: 8,765 Donated: $60	Competition 144 is now officially finished - congratulations to murphy for the only game winner. __________________ One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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