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Old May 20, 2010, 17:55   #1
Tiburon Silverflame
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Inconsistency in object.txt?

This is in 3.1.2v2, standard release:

N:505:Multi-Hued Dragon Scale Mail~
G:[:v
I:38:6:0
W:90:0:200:150000
A:3:90 to 100
P:30:2d4:-2:0:10
F:RES_ACID | RES_ELEC | RES_FIRE | RES_COLD | RES_POIS |
F:IGNORE_ACID | IGNORE_ELEC | IGNORE_FIRE | IGNORE_COLD
ERAGON_MULTIHUED:25+1d225

The part that I question is the recharge time. All the other DSMs are like this:
ERAGON_BALANCE:300+1d300

That is, A + 1dA. So should the MH's recharge be 225+1d225?
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Old May 20, 2010, 19:41   #2
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This is in 3.1.2v2, standard release:

N:505:Multi-Hued Dragon Scale Mail~
G:[:v
I:38:6:0
W:90:0:200:150000
A:3:90 to 100
P:30:2d4:-2:0:10
F:RES_ACID | RES_ELEC | RES_FIRE | RES_COLD | RES_POIS |
F:IGNORE_ACID | IGNORE_ELEC | IGNORE_FIRE | IGNORE_COLD
ERAGON_MULTIHUED:25+1d225

The part that I question is the recharge time. All the other DSMs are like this:
ERAGON_BALANCE:300+1d300

That is, A + 1dA. So should the MH's recharge be 225+1d225?
I'm guessing that since it's supposed to be more powerful it is given a faster recharge time (the breath itself is not any more powerful)
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Old May 20, 2010, 20:11   #3
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I'm guessing that since it's supposed to be more powerful it is given a faster recharge time (the breath itself is not any more powerful)
225 vs 300 is already significantly faster. 25 vs 225 looks like a typo to me.
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Old May 20, 2010, 20:51   #4
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Not like the breath activations are particularly useful as it stands. DSMs are largely useless, barring Balance and Power DSMs of course.

They might actually be worth using if they didn't have a recharge time, or if that time was 5-10 turns. You'd be giving up the defensive caapabilities of your normal body armor in exchange for getting a breath weapon. But then they'd be overpowered if you found them early on, and finding DSM at 500' isn't that uncommon.
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Old May 21, 2010, 05:37   #5
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MHDSM is pretty nice armor, especially in variants where it activates for RESISTANCE.
GDSM and BrDSM can also be useful.
But I agree, the only real winners are BaDSM and PDSM, though I wouldn't mind finding DlchSM some time. (rNeth+IMCold+rPois+rConf)
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But I agree, the only real winners are BaDSM and PDSM, though I wouldn't mind finding DlchSM some time. (rNeth+IMCold+rPois+rConf)
now that would be a nice armour find...
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Old May 21, 2010, 16:26   #7
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Hm. Hellish DSM => immunity to fire? Frozen DSM, Caustic DSM, and Shocking DSM for the other three upgraded base classes.

Or, heck, just make the base Red, Blue, Black, and White DSMs give immunity to their respective elements.

We could also have Wyvern Leather Scale Mail which gives resistance to poison and does nothing else. It could be moderately common in the dlvl 20-40 range; someone might actually equip it!
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I wasn't thinking of Elemental Wyrms; I was thinking of Dracolich. Although, on further thought scale mail from a dracolich doesn't make a lot of sense:
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The skeletal form of a once-great dragon, enchanted by magic most perilous. Its animated form strikes with speed and drains life from its prey to satisfy its hunger.
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I can't remember the last time I actually wore DSM. it's a great idea, but by the time it shows up you're wearing artefact armour which gives you much needed resistances. there's too many different types that appear too deep I think.

I think that making the basic 4 give immunity to that element (and maybe resistances to the other 3) and making them a bit deeper/more rare could work. and then make the other DSM's include the basic 4 plus their colour. so green DSM would be Rbase+RPois, etc. then they might well be good competition for some of the lower artefact armours.

right now, I don't even bother bringing them to the surface to sell.

dave

PS. question is, should MHDSM provide 4 immunities? that might be too strong.. that said, I've never seen one...
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Pete: well, make it Dracolich Bone Armor then, instead of Scale Mail.

If MHDSM provided four immunities, it'd be one of the best armors in the game.
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