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Old March 2, 2021, 20:17   #41
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sometimes i hate this game;

ME: CL43 troll paladin with 900hp.
Situation: i see a greater vault; cool. Examine said vault: it's full of hounds, including plasma, aether, chaos and time hounds.
Thinking: "i could really use a scroll of Banishment".
Action: check map. Result: find one scroll of banishment !! WOHOO!
Cast portal: wind up right next to said scroll. There is also a Dracolisk near by; i don't want him to burn my scroll and ruin my fun. Stealth to scroll - Read scroll.

Success! I can now go loot that vault.
HA ! Stupid dracolisk. You can't burn my scroll, you can't even kill me. In fact, *I* can kill YOU.
Attack dracolisk:


.. "the dracolisk breathes nexus. you raise up through the ceiling.."


AAAARRGHHH
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Old March 2, 2021, 23:14   #42
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That's pretty much Angband in a nutshell.
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Old March 3, 2021, 16:36   #43
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sometimes i hate this game;

Success! I can now go loot that vault.
HA ! Stupid dracolisk. You can't burn my scroll, you can't even kill me. In fact, *I* can kill YOU.
Attack dracolisk:

.. "the dracolisk breathes nexus. you raise up through the ceiling.."


AAAARRGHHH
Classic. Dracolisks were definitely toned down a while back, I can remember in 2.8.x when they were an "H" and native to about 2250', breathing nether for 550 damage plus the fire breath. Dracolich was also native to that depth too I think.
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Old March 19, 2021, 09:19   #44
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generic thoughts on 4.2.1 Paladin

1. exception error during single combat = permanent game crash.
2. i'm under the impression that more consumables are getting destroyed, even with resistance.
3. XP drain has been a constant pain and have often had to scum-rest for RLL.
4. a Sell limit of 5000g when there is only ONE shop that buys weapons is not good.
5. no Orb is pretty annoying, as it was used to kill mobs that you otherwise cannot fight in LoS, such as Druji.
6. No PORTAL !! I'm sorry, i just dont want to deal with the annoyance of carrying around staves, managing their charges, stashing ?Recharge, getting weighted down.
6b. being CL40+ and still carrying around wands of TO and scrolls of recharging is pretty damn annoying.
7. was !Spd reduced in duration ?
8. Stun is still too strong.

my continued impression on 4.2 is that it's not a game i enjoy playing.
There are situations that i just do not care do deal with. A simple hydra pit is now a pit of gorgons and hydras who ALL summon other hydras. I have no WoD, no Portal to escape, nothing to shoot if not miserable arrows, no Banish, not even Earthquake. This is not a "how do i approach this" situation but rather a "whatever im just leaving" situation.

Nick, as a game designer, broadly speaking, you want people to play your game, and what you do not want is for them to *not* want to play your game. Stuff like early-depth invisible kill_wall lifedraining breeders does not give you a challenge, because the only rational way to deal with the situation is to return to town.
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Old April 7, 2021, 07:56   #45
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yet another The One Ring, this time placidly sitting on DL100. Shame i had zero use for it.
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 [Angband 4.1.3 Character Dump]

 Name   Jonko        Age            123          Self  RB  CB  EB   Best
 Race   High-Elf     Height        7'8"   STR! 18/100  +1  -3 +15 18/***
 Class  Mage         Weight   13st 11lb   INT! 18/100  +3  +3 +26 18/***
 Title  ***WINNER*** Turns used:          WIS! 18/100  -1  +0 +11 18/200
 HP     939/939      Game       2079299   DEX! 18/100  +3  +0 +12 18/***
 SP     222/401      Standard    324399   CON! 18/100  +1  -2 +13 18/***
                     Resting     164700

 Level                 50    Armor     [31,+182]    Saving Throw    100%
 Cur Exp         11780674                           Stealth       Superb
 Max Exp         11780674    Melee      10d1,+45    Disarm - phys.  100%
 Adv Exp         ********    To-hit       39,+45    Disarm - magic  100%
                             Blows      4.0/turn    Magic Devices    134
 Gold            11305706                           Searching       100%
 Burden          297.6 lb    Shoot to-dam     +8    Infravision   130 ft
 Overweight      117.7 lb    To-hit       40,+51    Speed      24 (3.4x)
 Max Depth   5050' (L101)    Shots        1/turn

 You are the only child of a Telerin Warrior.  You have light grey
 eyes, straight blond hair, and a fair complexion.



rAcid:+..+..+++...! Nexus:....+........
rElec:.+.+..+.++..! Nethr:...+..+......
rFire:+..+..+.+...! Chaos:...+.........
rCold:...*..+++...! Disen:.+......+....
rPois:....+.......! pFear:.+.+.+...+...
rLite:+..+..+.....+ pBlnd:.........+.+.
rDark:+..+..+....+. pConf:..........+..
Sound:.........+... pStun:.............
Shard:...+..+...... HLife:...+.........

Regen:+............ Stea.:....+..+.....
  ESP:.........+... Sear.:....+........
Invis:.....+......+ Infra:....+..+....+
FrAct:+.....+...+.. Tunn.:++...........
Feath:.........+... Speed:+.+.+.+....+.
S.Dig:...+......... Blows:.............
ImpHP:............. Shots:.............
 Fear:............. Might:.+...........
Aggrv:............. Light:+..+.+.+.+...


  [Last Messages]

> You have won the game!
> You may retire (commit suicide) when you are ready.
> Morgoth, Lord of Darkness dies.
> You see the Mighty Hammer 'Grond' (9d9) (+5,+25) [+10].
> You have the Mighty Hammer 'Grond' (9d9) (+5,+25) [+10] (u).
> You see 16 Mithril Bolts of Slay Evil (3d5) (+13,+12).
> You feel yourself slow down.
> You see the Massive Iron Crown of Morgoth [0,+0] <+50, +1>.
> You have the Massive Iron Crown of Morgoth [0,+0] <+50, +1> (u).
> You see a Wicker Shield of Elvenkind [2,+23] <+2>.
> You enter a maze of down staircases.
> You feel nervous about this place.
> The air about you becomes charged...
> You hear a door burst open!
> You feel yourself yanked upwards!

Killed by Ripe Old Age.

  [Character Equipment]

a) the Great Hammer of Bronda (10d1) (+10,+16) [+11] <+6, +3, +2, +5, +1>
     Dropped by Gothmog, the High Captain of Balrogs at 4850 feet
     (level 97)
     
     +6 intelligence.
     +3 wisdom.
     +3 constitution.
     +2 tunneling.
     +5 speed.
     +1 light.
     Slays undead (powerfully), dragons (powerfully), demons
     (powerfully), giants, trolls, orcs, animals, evil creatures.
     Provides resistance to acid, fire, light, dark.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, fire.
     Sustains dexterity, constitution.
     Speeds regeneration.  Prevents paralysis.  
     
     When activated, it teleports you five levels down.
     Takes 527 to 710 turns to recharge at your current speed.
     Your chance of success is 98.8%
     
     Combat info:
     4.0 blows/round.
     Average damage/round: 415.2 vs. undead, 415.2 vs. dragons, 415.2
     vs. demons, 324.8 vs. giants, 324.8 vs. trolls, 324.8 vs. orcs,
     279.6 vs. animals, 279.6 vs. evil creatures, and 234.4 vs. others.
     
b) the Heavy Crossbow of Wilinum (x5) (+16,+8) <+5, +3, +4, +1>
     Found lying on the floor in a vault at 4850 feet (level 97)
     
     +5 strength.
     +3 intelligence.
     +4 tunneling.
     +1 shooting power.
     Provides resistance to lightning, disenchantment.
     Provides protection from fear.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, fire.
     
c) a Ring of Speed <+13>
     Taken from a chest found at 4800 feet (level 96)
     
     +13 speed.
     
d) the Band 'Ilingwin' <+3, +1, +2>
     Found lying on the floor in a vault at 4900 feet (level 98)
     
     +3 strength.
     +3 intelligence.
     +1 wisdom.
     +2 constitution.
     +1 light.
     Provides immunity to cold.
     Provides resistance to acid, lightning, fire, light, dark, shards,
     nether, chaos.
     Provides protection from fear.
     Cannot be harmed by lightning.
     Sustains strength, constitution.
     Slows your metabolism.  Sustains your life force.  
     
     When activated, it attempts to remove a curse from an item.
     Takes 221 to 244 turns to recharge at your current speed.
     Your chance of success is 97.5%
     
e) an Amulet of Trickery <+4, +2, +6, +3>
     Found lying on the floor in a vault at 4900 feet (level 98)
     
     +4 dexterity.
     +2 stealth.
     +6 searching skill.
     +6 infravision.
     +3 speed.
     Provides resistance to poison, nexus.
     Sustains dexterity.
     
f) the Phial of Helos <+2, +3>
     Found lying on the floor in a vault at 1300 feet (level 26)
     
     +2 intelligence.
     +3 wisdom.
     +3 light.
     Provides protection from fear.
     Cannot be harmed by fire.
     Grants the ability to see invisible things.  
     Radius 3 light.
     
     When activated, it lights up the surrounding area, hurting
     light-sensitive creatures.
     Takes 37 to 68 turns to recharge at your current speed.
     Your chance of success is 98.8%
     
g) the Black Dragon Scale Mail of Aramothur (-2) [16,+24] <+2, +4, +5, +3>
     Found lying on the floor in a vault at 4850 feet (level 97)
     
     +2 strength.
     +4 intelligence.
     +4 dexterity.
     +5 constitution.
     +3 speed.
     Provides resistance to acid, lightning, fire, cold, light, dark,
     shards, nether.
     Sustains constitution.
     Prevents paralysis.  
     
     When aimed, it breathes a cone of acid with width 20 degrees,
     dealing 120 damage at the source.
     Takes 170 turns to recharge at your current speed.
     Your chance of success is 99.0%
     
h) the Fur Cloak of Rinde [3,+19] <+1, +3, +2>
     Dropped by a sorcerer at 2200 feet (level 44)
     
     +1 strength.
     +3 intelligence.
     +2 dexterity.
     +3 stealth.
     +3 infravision.
     +1 light.
     Provides resistance to acid, cold.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, fire.
     
i) the Small Metal Shield 'Elenevor' [5,+17] <+3>
     Dropped by Hoarmurath of Dir at 3200 feet (level 64)
     
     +3 constitution.
     Provides resistance to acid, lightning, fire, cold,
     disenchantment.
     Cannot be harmed by acid.
     
     When activated, it fires a mana bolt with damage 12d8.
     Takes 193 to 214 turns to recharge at your current speed.
     Your chance of success is 98.9%
     
j) the Iron Crown 'Nilma' [0,+19] <+1, +4>
     Found lying on the floor in a vault at 2650 feet (level 53)
     
     +1 strength.
     +4 wisdom.
     +1 light.
     Provides resistance to lightning, sound.
     Provides protection from fear, blindness.
     Cannot be harmed by acid.
     Feather Falling.  Grants telepathy.  
     
     When activated, it destroys doors.
     Takes 139 to 153 turns to recharge at your current speed.
     Your chance of success is 99.0%
     
k) the Set of Caestus 'Goreth' (+7,+9) [5,+15] <+5, +2>
     Found lying on the floor in a vault at 2100 feet (level 42)
     
     +5 intelligence.
     +2 dexterity.
     Provides protection from confusion.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, fire.
     Prevents paralysis.  
     
l) the Pair of Leather Boots 'Umithor' [2,+12] <+3, +4>
     Found lying on the floor in a vault at 4800 feet (level 96)
     
     +3 strength.
     +4 speed.
     Provides resistance to dark.
     Provides protection from blindness.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, fire.
     




  [Character Inventory]

a) 2 Books of Magic Spells [Magic for Beginners]
b) 2 Books of Magic Spells [Conjurings and Tricks]
c) 2 Books of Magic Spells [Incantations and Illusions]
d) a Book of Magic Spells [Sorcery and Evocations]
e) a Book of Magic Spells [Resistances of Scarabtarices]
     Cannot be harmed by fire.
     
f) a Book of Magic Spells [Raal's Tome of Destruction]
     Cannot be harmed by fire.
     
g) a Book of Magic Spells [Mordenkainen's Escapes]
     Cannot be harmed by fire.
     
h) a Book of Magic Spells [Kelek's Grimoire of Power]
     Cannot be harmed by fire.
     
i) 5 Mushrooms of Vigor
j) 22 Potions of Cure Critical Wounds
k) 30 Potions of Healing
l) 2 Potions of Life
     It can be thrown at creatures with damaging effect.
     
m) 32 Potions of Restore Mana
n) 13 Potions of Restore Life Levels
o) 8 Potions of Enlightenment
p) 2 Rods of Detection
     Cannot be harmed by lightning.
     
q) 2 Rods of Magic Mapping
r) 4 Rods of Healing
     Cannot be harmed by lightning.
     
s) a Rod of Restoration
     Cannot be harmed by lightning.
     
t) the Ring of Power 'The One Ring' (+15,+15) <+5>
     Found lying on the floor of a special room at 5000 feet (level
     100)
     
     +5 strength.
     +5 intelligence.
     +5 wisdom.
     +5 dexterity.
     +5 constitution.
     +5 speed.
     Provides immunity to acid, lightning, fire, cold.
     Provides resistance to poison, dark, nether, disenchantment.
     Cannot be harmed by lightning.
     Sustains strength, intelligence, wisdom, dexterity, constitution.
     Speeds regeneration.  Grants telepathy.  Grants the ability to see
     invisible things.  Aggravates creatures nearby.  Drains
     experience.  Can't be removed.  
     
     When activated, it does bizarre things.
     Takes 710 to 2210 turns to recharge at your current speed.
     Your chance of success is 91.5%
     
u) the Massive Iron Crown of Morgoth [0,+0] <+50, +1>
     Dropped by Morgoth, Lord of Darkness at 5000 feet (level 100)
     
     +50 strength.
     +50 intelligence.
     +50 wisdom.
     +50 dexterity.
     +50 constitution.
     +50 infravision.
     +1 light.
     Provides resistance to acid, lightning, fire, cold, poison, light,
     dark, nexus, nether.
     Provides protection from fear, confusion.
     Cannot be harmed by acid.
     Grants telepathy.  Grants the ability to see invisible things. 
     Can't be removed.  
     
v) the Mighty Hammer 'Grond' (9d9) (+5,+25) [+10]
     Dropped by Morgoth, Lord of Darkness at 5000 feet (level 100)
     
     Slays undead (powerfully), dragons (powerfully), demons
     (powerfully), trolls, orcs, animals, evil creatures.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, fire.
     Grants telepathy.  Grants the ability to see invisible things. 
     Sometimes creates earthquakes on impact.  Aggravates creatures
     nearby.  
     
     Combat info:
     4.0 blows/round.
     Average damage/round: 1732 vs. undead, 1732 vs. dragons, 1732 vs.
     demons, 1152.4 vs. trolls, 1152.4 vs. orcs, 862.8 vs. animals,
     862.8 vs. evil creatures, and 572.8 vs. others.
     




  [Character Quiver]



  [Home Inventory]

a) 10 Mushrooms of Vigor
b) 24 Potions of *Healing*
     It can be thrown at creatures with damaging effect.
     
c) the Band 'Valadaing' <+3, +5, +6, +1>
     Found lying on the floor in a pit at 3200 feet (level 64)
     
     +3 strength.
     +3 wisdom.
     +5 dexterity.
     +6 constitution.
     +1 light.
     Provides immunity to lightning.
     Provides resistance to cold, poison, light, dark.
     Cannot be harmed by lightning.
     Sustains intelligence.
     
d) the Amulet 'Arverest' <+5>
     Dropped by Lokkak, the Ogre Chieftain at 1850 feet (level 37)
     
     +5 strength.
     Provides protection from blindness, confusion.
     
     When activated, it extends your infravision by 50 feet for
     4d25+100 turns.
     Takes 139 to 153 turns to recharge at your current speed.
     Your chance of success is 95.1%
     
e) the Necklace of Brienol <+5>
     Found lying on the floor in a vault at 2200 feet (level 44)
     
     +5 strength.
     Provides resistance to poison, dark.
     Provides protection from confusion.
     
f) the Elfstone of Singor <+2>
     Dropped by a half-troll at 1850 feet (level 37)
     
     +2 constitution.
     +2 infravision.
     Provides resistance to lightning, dark, nether, chaos.
     Sustains strength.
     Slows your metabolism.  Feather Falling.  
     
g) the Star 'Mithrion' <+4, +1, +3>
     Found lying on the floor in a vault at 2200 feet (level 44)
     
     +4 intelligence.
     +1 wisdom.
     +3 light.
     Provides protection from fear.
     Cannot be harmed by fire.
     Sustains dexterity.
     Radius 3 light.
     
     When activated, it maps the area around you.
     Takes 173 to 340 turns to recharge at your current speed.
     Your chance of success is 95.1%
     
h) the Black Dragon Scale Mail of Ialmion (-2) [16,+21] <+5, +1>
     Found lying on the floor in a pit at 4850 feet (level 97)
     
     +5 intelligence.
     +1 constitution.
     +5 infravision.
     It causes your melee attacks to slay dragons (powerfully), orcs.
     Provides immunity to acid.
     Provides resistance to lightning, fire, cold, poison, light, dark,
     nether, disenchantment.
     Provides protection from fear, blindness.
     Prevents paralysis.  
     
     When activated, it lights and maps the entire level, sensing
     objects.
     Takes 612 to 897 turns to recharge at your current speed.
     Your chance of success is 98.2%
     
i) the Chain Mail of Camen (-2) [32,+8] <+6, +4, +3>
     Found lying on the floor in a vault at 2150 feet (level 43)
     
     +6 intelligence.
     +4 constitution.
     +3 stealth.
     Provides immunity to lightning.
     Provides resistance to disenchantment.
     Provides protection from fear, blindness.
     Cannot be harmed by acid.
     
j) the Chain Mail 'Earon' (-2) [32,+15] <+3, +5>
     Conjured forth by magic at 2250 feet (level 45)
     
     +3 intelligence.
     +5 constitution.
     Provides resistance to cold, light, dark, shards, disenchantment.
     Cannot be harmed by acid.
     
k) the Ribbed Plate Armour of Viernir (-3) [66,+8] <+4, +3, +2>
     Dropped by Gothmog, the High Captain of Balrogs at 4850 feet
     (level 97)
     
     +4 strength.
     +3 dexterity.
     +2 constitution.
     +2 stealth.
     Provides resistance to cold, dark, sound.
     Cannot be harmed by acid.
     
     When activated, it fires balls of electricity in all directions,
     each one causing 150 damage.
     Takes 499 to 673 turns to recharge at your current speed.
     Your chance of success is 98.2%
     
l) the Adamantite Plate Mail of Faldancar (-4) [80,+13] <+3, +4>
     Found lying on the floor in a vault at 4850 feet (level 97)
     
     +3 intelligence.
     +4 dexterity.
     +3 constitution.
     Provides immunity to acid.
     Provides resistance to cold.
     Provides protection from blindness.
     Cannot be harmed by acid.
     Sustains your life force.  
     
     When activated, it polymorphs a monster into another kind of
     creature.
     Takes 193 to 214 turns to recharge at your current speed.
     Your chance of success is 98.2%
     
m) the Adamantite Plate Mail 'Redhras' (-4) [80,+17] <+5>
     Found lying on the floor in a vault at 4800 feet (level 96)
     
     +5 constitution.
     Provides resistance to light, dark, nexus, disenchantment.
     Cannot be harmed by acid.
     
n) the Ethereal Cloak 'Firet' [0,+21] <+2, +1, +4>
     Dropped by Ar-Pharaz�n the Golden at 2900 feet (level 58)
     
     +2 strength.
     +1 intelligence.
     +4 infravision.
     Provides resistance to poison.
     Provides protection from blindness.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, fire.
     Slows your metabolism.  Grants the ability to see invisible
     things.  
     
o) the Small Metal Shield 'Gisil' (+3,+7) [5,+12] <+1>
     Dropped by Dwar, Dog Lord of Waw at 3300 feet (level 66)
     
     +1 light.
     Provides resistance to acid, lightning, fire, poison, sound,
     nether.
     Cannot be harmed by acid.
     Prevents paralysis.  
     
     When activated, it creates a lightning ball with damage 64.
     Takes 248 to 275 turns to recharge at your current speed.
     Your chance of success is 95.1%
     
p) the Large Metal Shield of Armenya [12,+18] <+1, +2, +3>
     Dropped by The Queen Ant at 2150 feet (level 43)
     
     +1 strength.
     +2 dexterity.
     +3 stealth.
     Provides resistance to lightning, fire, light.
     Provides protection from fear.
     Cannot be harmed by acid.
     Slows your metabolism.  Grants the ability to see invisible
     things.  Prevents paralysis.  
     
     When activated, it drains up to 90 hit points of life from a
     target creature.  Does not affect undead, demons, golems,
     elementals or vortices.
     Takes 248 to 275 turns to recharge at your current speed.
     Your chance of success is 98.2%
     
q) the Set of Gauntlets of Arielor (+3,+5) [3,+11] <+4, +3>
     Dropped by Bert the Stone Troll at 2200 feet (level 44)
     
     +4 strength.
     +3 dexterity.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, fire.
     Slows your metabolism.  
     
     When activated, it creates a frost ball with damage 50.
     Takes 221 to 244 turns to recharge at your current speed.
     Your chance of success is 98.8%
     
r) the Long Sword of Hirin (2d5) (+16,+15) <+5> {ESP CON}
     Dropped by Dwar, Dog Lord of Waw at 3300 feet (level 66)
     
     +5 constitution.
     Branded with lightning.
     Provides resistance to acid, lightning, cold.
     Cannot be harmed by acid.
     Grants telepathy.  Grants the ability to see invisible things. 
     Sustains your life force.  
     
     When activated, it detects gold and objects nearby.
     Takes 166 to 183 turns to recharge at your current speed.
     Your chance of success is 92.9%
     
     Combat info:
     4.0 blows/round.
     Average damage/round: 264.4 vs. creatures not resistant to
     lightning, and 210.8 vs. others.
     
s) the Lochaber Axe of Tirin (5d8) (+8,+21) <+3>
     Found lying on the floor in a vault at 2100 feet (level 42)
     
     +3 constitution.
     Slays evil creatures.
     Branded with weak cold.
     Provides resistance to acid, lightning, cold, dark.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, fire.
     Prevents paralysis.  
     
     Combat info:
     4.0 blows/round.
     Average damage/round: 423.2 vs. creatures not resistant to cold,
     423.2 vs. evil creatures, and 318.8 vs. others.
     
t) the War Hammer of Namdaudel (3d3) (+9,+33) <+3, +1>
     Found lying on the floor at 2900 feet (level 58)
     
     +3 intelligence.
     +1 constitution.
     +1 light.
     Slays dragons (powerfully), demons (powerfully), undead, giants,
     trolls, orcs, animals, evil creatures.
     Branded with poison.
     Provides immunity to fire, cold.
     Provides resistance to light.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, fire.
     
     Combat info:
     4.0 blows/round.
     Average damage/round: 341.2 vs. creatures not resistant to poison,
     394 vs. dragons, 394 vs. demons, 341.2 vs. undead, 341.2 vs.
     giants, 341.2 vs. trolls, 341.2 vs. orcs, 314.8 vs. animals, 314.8
     vs. evil creatures, and 288.4 vs. others.
     
u) the Short Bow of Morment (x2) (+12,+11) <+2, +1>
     Dropped by Lugdush, the Uruk at 1900 feet (level 38)
     
     +2 wisdom.
     +1 constitution.
     +2 shooting speed.
     Slays dragons (powerfully), orcs.
     Provides resistance to acid, lightning, light, nexus.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, fire.
     Sustains constitution.
     Feather Falling.  
     
v) a Long Bow of Lothlórien (x5) (+20,+23) <+5, +2>
     Found lying on the floor in a vault at 4850 feet (level 97)
     
     +5 dexterity.
     +2 shooting power.
     Provides protection from confusion.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, fire.
     Prevents paralysis.  
     
w) the Heavy Crossbow of Thalvain (x6) (+10,+11) <+2>
     Found lying on the floor in a vault at 4850 feet (level 97)
     
     +2 speed.
     +2 shooting power.
     Provides resistance to acid, fire.
     Provides protection from confusion.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, fire.
     Feather Falling.  Speeds regeneration.  Sustains your life force. 
     
     
     When activated, it heals cut damage, and cures all stunning,
     poison, blindness and confusion.
     Takes 248 to 275 turns to recharge at your current speed.
     Your chance of success is 99.0%
     
x) 24 Seeker Arrows of Slay Evil (4d4) (+12,+16)
     Slays evil creatures.
     


[Player history]
      Turn   Depth  Note
         0      0'  Began the quest to destroy Morgoth.
       566     50'  Reached level 2
      2308    100'  Killed Grip, Farmer Maggot's Dog
      2308    100'  Reached level 3
      2696    100'  Reached level 4
      3607    150'  Reached level 5
      4533    150'  Reached level 6
      5871    200'  Reached level 7
      7290    250'  Reached level 8
      9214      0'  Reached level 9
     10253    350'  Reached level 10
     12530    400'  Reached level 11
     15499    700'  Reached level 11
     16857    700'  Reached level 12
     18291      0'  Reached level 13
     20290    800'  Reached level 14
     20605    800'  Killed Bullroarer the Hobbit
     21051    850'  Reached level 15
     22544   1200'  Reached level 16
     35083   1250'  Reached level 17
     36016   1250'  Reached level 18
     38699   1300'  Reached level 19
     40775   1300'  Reached level 20
     41071   1300'  Killed Wormtongue, Agent of Saruman
     42181   1300'  Reached level 21
     42646   1300'  Found the Phial of Helos
     44659   1300'  Killed Nár, the Dwarf
     44942   1300'  Reached level 22
     45069   1300'  Killed Shagrat, the Orc Captain
     47618   1300'  Killed Grishnákh, the Hill Orc
     49073   1300'  Killed Ulfast, Son of Ulfang
     49194   1300'  Killed Lagduf, the Snaga
     49722   1300'  Reached level 23
     50307   1300'  Killed Ulwarth, Son of Ulfang
     54566   1300'  Reached level 24
     55382   1350'  Killed Azog, King of the Uruk-Hai
     55383   1350'  Found the Metal Cap of Diril (LOST)
     57193   1400'  Killed Orfax, Son of Boldor
     57337   1400'  Killed Golfimbul, the Hill Orc Chief
     57337   1400'  Reached level 25
     58359   1400'  Killed Fang, Farmer Maggot's Dog
     59342   1450'  Killed Boldor, King of the Yeeks
     60107   1700'  Killed Brodda, the Easterling
     60538   1700'  Killed Khîm, Son of Mîm
     62268   1750'  Reached level 26
     62469   1750'  Found the Necklace of Anien (LOST)
     64928   1750'  Reached level 27
     67293   1750'  Killed Ufthak of Cirith Ungol
     67295   1750'  Found the Hard Leather Cap of Morin (LOST)
     68430   1800'  Reached level 28
     69709   1800'  Killed Draebor, the Imp
     71456      0'  Killed Farmer Maggot
     71730   1850'  Reached level 29
     73380   1800'  Found the Set of Caestus of Ondol (LOST)
     76926   1850'  Reached level 30
     77494   1900'  Killed Angamaitë of Umbar
     77520   1900'  Killed Bolg, Son of Azog
     77550   1900'  Found the War Hammer of Nulad (LOST)
     77585   1900'  Killed Sangahyando of Umbar
     77854   1900'  Killed Gorbag, the Orc Captain
     78203   1900'  Killed Lugdush, the Uruk
     78203   1900'  Found the Short Bow of Morment
     78217   1900'  Killed Uglúk, the Uruk
     94286   1850'  Found the Elfstone of Singor
     94718   1850'  Found the Steel Helm of Hilin (LOST)
     96028   1850'  Killed Lokkak, the Ogre Chieftain
     96031   1850'  Found the Amulet 'Arverest'
     97202   2100'  Reached level 31
     97401   2050'  Reached level 31
    118849   2100'  Found the Set of Caestus 'Goreth'
    118915   2100'  Found the Lochaber Axe of Tirin
    119286   2100'  Killed Uvatha the Horseman
    120173   2100'  Found the Light Crossbow of Cuareg (LOST)
    120268   2100'  Killed Rogrog the Black Troll
    122018   2150'  Killed Adunaphel the Quiet
    122018   2150'  Reached level 32
    122214   2150'  Found the Rapier of Arist (LOST)
    142690   2150'  Found the Zweihander of Lomen (LOST)
    142948   2150'  Killed Castamir the Usurper
    142963   2150'  Found the Short Sword 'Gelenas' (LOST)
    143089   2150'  Killed The Queen Ant
    143109   2150'  Found the Large Metal Shield of Armenya
    145262   2150'  Found the Tulwar 'Alluin' (LOST)
    146775   2150'  Killed Lorgan, Chief of the Easterlings
    147932   2150'  Reached level 33
    148218   2150'  Found the Chain Mail of Camen
    148546   2150'  Reached level 33
    149531   2200'  Killed Ibun, Son of Mîm
    153847   2200'  Found the Set of Gauntlets of Faulindor (LOST)
    153988   2200'  Found the Necklace of Brienol
    154002   2200'  Found the Star 'Mithrion'
    155467   2200'  Found the Zweihander 'Arech' (LOST)
    155504   2200'  Killed Tom the Stone Troll
    155510   2200'  Killed Bill the Stone Troll
    155525   2200'  Killed Bert the Stone Troll
    155526   2200'  Found the Set of Gauntlets of Arielor
    155885   2200'  Killed Itangast the Fire Drake
    155885   2200'  Found the Lance of Tuorline (LOST)
    155934   2200'  Killed Smaug the Golden
    155934   2200'  Reached level 34
    155939   2200'  Found the Set of Caestus 'Sialas' (LOST)
    156971   2200'  Found the Fur Cloak of Rinde
    157108   2200'  Reached level 34
    158281   2250'  Found the Hard Leather Cap 'Erianaron' (LOST)
    159098   2250'  Killed Scatha the Worm
    159310   2250'  Found the Chain Mail 'Earon'
    161020      0'  Reached level 35
    161859   2350'  Found the Soft Leather Armour of Numen (LOST)
    162290   2400'  Killed Akhorahil the Blind
    164870   2550'  Found the Iron Crown of Adren (LOST)
    165923   2600'  Found the Main Gauche 'Nimaewe' (LOST)
    167874   2650'  Found the Set of Leather Gloves of Atareb (LOST)
    167881   2650'  Found the Iron Crown 'Nilma'
    168118   2700'  Found the Fur Cloak of Gliacir (LOST)
    168330   2750'  Reached level 36
    169135   2900'  Reached level 36
    169560   2900'  Killed Ar-Pharazôn the Golden
    169567   2900'  Found the Ethereal Cloak 'Firet'
    169568   2900'  Found the Bastard Sword 'Harth' (LOST)
    170007   2900'  Killed Gorlim, Betrayer of Barahir
    170011   2900'  Found the Broad Axe of Aronnath (LOST)
    170596   2900'  Found the War Hammer of Namdaudel
    174292   3200'  Found the Set of Caestus of Thorothan (LOST)
    174313   3200'  Found the Short Sword of Ornon (LOST)
    174655   3200'  Found the Band 'Valadaing'
    175673   3200'  Reached level 37
    176248   3200'  Found the Rapier of Aeruina (LOST)
    177157   3200'  Killed Hoarmurath of Dir
    177161   3200'  Found the Small Metal Shield 'Elenevor'
    180444   3250'  Found the Two-Handed Great Flail of Celeb (LOST)
    180523   3250'  Found the Ball-and-Chain of Falarien (LOST)
    181391   3300'  Found the Lucerne Hammer of Annaegyth (LOST)
    181865   3300'  Killed Khamûl, the Black Easterling
    182012   3300'  Killed Dwar, Dog Lord of Waw
    182012   3300'  Reached level 38
    182020   3300'  Found the Small Metal Shield 'Gisil'
    182024   3300'  Found the Long Sword of Hirin
    182040   3300'  Reached level 38
    182878   3300'  Found the Trident of Ataukas (LOST)
    182981   3300'  Killed Ji Indur Dawndeath
    182981   3300'  Found the Tulwar of Hyaman (LOST)
    182991   3300'  Killed Ren the Unclean
    183708   3300'  Found the Short Sword 'Nibilmar' (LOST)
    183713   3300'  Found the Zweihander of Telen (LOST)
    184728   3350'  Killed Quaker, Master of Earth
    185058   3400'  Found the Metal Cap of Angon (LOST)
    188691   4350'  Killed Mughash the Kobold Lord
    188955   4350'  Found the Band of Galinwe (LOST)
    189016   4350'  Found the Dagger of Menth (LOST)
    192336   4400'  Reached level 39
    196681   4800'  Found the Adamantite Plate Mail 'Redhras'
    196697   4800'  Found the Pair of Leather Boots 'Umithor'
    197071   4800'  Killed Qlzqqlzuup, the Emperor Quylthulg
    197264   4800'  Killed Waldern, King of Water
    198677   4850'  Reached level 40
    200168   4900'  Found the Band 'Ilingwin'
    200356   4850'  Found the Two-Handed Great Flail of Asaugrim (LOST)
    201931   4850'  Found the Band of Anast (LOST)
    202874   4850'  Killed Harowen the Black Hand
    204315   4900'  Found the Rapier of Telenthil (LOST)
    205411   4900'  Killed Draugluin, Sire of All Werewolves
    205928   4900'  Reached level 41
    206791   4900'  Killed Shelob, Spider of Darkness
    207333   4900'  Killed The Balrog of Moria
    207996   4850'  Found the Scythe of Thist (LOST)
    208004   4850'  Found the Flail of Ezelon (LOST)
    209076   4850'  Reached level 41
    209365   4850'  Found the Maul of Elenya (LOST)
    209377   4850'  Killed Kavlax the Many-Headed
    210251   4850'  Found the Adamantite Plate Mail of Faldancar
    210478   4850'  Killed Ariel, Queen of Air
    212626   4900'  Reached level 42
    216861   4900'  Killed The Phoenix
    218719   4900'  Killed Cantoras, the Skeletal Lord
    218724   4900'  Found the Broad Sword of Linas (LOST)
    219180   4900'  Killed Thuringwethil, the Vampire Messenger
    220761   4850'  Reached level 43
    222955   4850'  Killed Arien, Maia of the Sun
    225737   4850'  Killed The Lernaean Hydra
    227107   4850'  Killed Pazuzu, Lord of Air
    229571   4850'  Killed Eöl, the Dark Elf
    229831   4850'  Killed Ancalagon the Black
    230324   4850'  Found the Tulwar of Dalad (LOST)
    230430   4850'  Found the Leather Scale Mail of Antirin (LOST)
    230886   4850'  Found the Black Dragon Scale Mail of Aramothur
    232594   4850'  Killed Ungoliant, the Unlight
    233789   4850'  Reached level 44
    234762   4850'  Killed Polyphemus, the Blind Cyclops
    235912   4850'  Killed Atlas, the Titan
    237226   4850'  Killed Kronos, Lord of the Titans
    238565   4850'  Killed Saruman of Many Colours
    241207   4850'  Killed Glaurung, Father of the Dragons
    241207   4850'  Found the Glaive 'Carin' (LOST)
    242521   4850'  Found the Mace 'Emenoeglo' (LOST)
    243167   4850'  Reached level 45
    243796   4800'  Killed Uldor the Accursed
    243893   4800'  Killed Vecna, the Emperor Lich
    245040   4800'  Killed The Tarrasque
    246162   4800'  Killed Ossë, Herald of Ulmo
    247214   4850'  Killed Carcharoth, the Jaws of Thirst
    247215   4850'  Found the Quarterstaff of Earth (LOST)
    247828   4850'  Killed The Cat Lord
    248761   4850'  Killed Lungorthin, the Balrog of White Fire
    248763   4850'  Found the Broad Axe of Osseredh (LOST)
    249895   4850'  Killed Gothmog, the High Captain of Balrogs
    249904   4850'  Found the Ribbed Plate Armour of Viernir
    249907   4850'  Found the Great Hammer of Bronda
    250597   4850'  Killed Tselakus, the Dreadlord
    252192   4850'  Reached level 46
    252583   4850'  Killed Fundin Bluecloak
    255059   4850'  Found the Scythe of Vanor (LOST)
    255259   4850'  Found the Beaked Axe 'Quenir' (LOST)
    255673   4850'  Found the Small Metal Shield 'Elemmor' (LOST)
    256395   4850'  Found the Mace of Eorest (LOST)
    259638   4850'  Killed Omarax, the Eye Tyrant
    261056   4900'  Killed Vargo, Tyrant of Fire
    263450   4900'  Reached level 47
    268840   4850'  Killed The Mouth of Sauron
    269523   4850'  Found the Black Dragon Scale Mail of Ialmion
    272245   4850'  Killed Baphomet the Minotaur Lord
    274388   4850'  Found the Heavy Crossbow of Thalvain
    277491   4850'  Reached level 48
    280309   4900'  Killed Feagwath, the Undead Sorcerer
    280994   4900'  Killed Beorn, the Shape-Changer
    281633   4900'  Found the Steel Helm of Brith (LOST)
    284962   4850'  Found the Heavy Crossbow of Wilinum
    287636   4900'  Killed Maeglin, the Traitor of Gondolin
    289246   4900'  Killed The Witch-King of Angmar
    290228   4900'  Killed Huan, Wolfhound of the Valar
    290228   4900'  Reached level 49
    292751   4900'  Killed Radagast the Brown
    293055   4900'  Found the Glaive of Glind (LOST)
    299801   4850'  Reached level 50
    300643   4850'  Reached level 50
    302348   4850'  Reached level 50
    311061   4950'  Killed Mîm, Betrayer of Turin
    311062   4950'  Killed Sméagol
    311112   4950'  Killed Sauron, the Sorcerer
    311113   4950'  Found the Ethereal Cloak of Tatauglin (LOST)
    311115   4950'  Found the Scimitar of Tiriquen (LOST)
    311119   4950'  Killed Ulfang the Black
    311521   4950'  Killed Medusa, the Gorgon
    311754   5000'  Found the Ring of Power 'The One Ring'
    324289   5000'  Killed Morgoth, Lord of Darkness
    324298   5000'  Found the Mighty Hammer 'Grond'
    324303   5000'  Found the Massive Iron Crown of Morgoth
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quick sanity check; what is the most damage a drolem can do if you resist poison? (base damage 733)

and, is it based on distance? or rather, how?

(4.1.3 obv)
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quick sanity check; what is the most damage a drolem can do if you resist poison? (base damage 733)

and, is it based on distance? or rather, how?

(4.1.3 obv)
1/3 of that, so 244. It diminishes with distance, but stays full strength to 3 grids away (it's 5 grids for powerful monsters, which drolems interestingly aren't).
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ok cool i have a 15hp margin.
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ok cool i have a 15hp margin.
No you don't, sorry. People keep forgetting that the number of hitpoints non-unique monsters have is variable. Take this example of a Wolf of Sauron advertised as having 2200HP and doing 366 darkness damage, and yet my @ takes 405 damage from him in a single breath:

https://youtu.be/zOYtezdtShk&t=38s
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True enough. But if you are more than a few squares away, you are safe for one breath. I don't actually know what the minimum distance is, but 10 squares is surely enough.
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