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Old November 2, 2021, 13:53   #21
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Yeah with an archer in the nether realm, you probably want to read scrolls of artifact creation on rings of accuracy if you can live without speed ring. Boots + Cubragol + Flare is 23, close enough.

In your case, ideally you'd get accuracy + sound + shard. The scrolls can be scummed; the hard part is getting accuracy rings.
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Old November 2, 2021, 14:06   #22
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Yeah with an archer in the nether realm, you probably want to read scrolls of artifact creation on rings of accuracy if you can live without speed ring. Boots + Cubragol + Flare is 23, close enough.

In your case, ideally you'd get accuracy + sound + shard. The scrolls can be scummed; the hard part is getting accuracy rings.
Cubragol is not a good weapon though. It is only x3.

Flare doesn't give speed. I have a +20 Accuracy ring, but I have not seen an Artifact creation scroll yet. Do I keep the +20 Accuracy if I turn it into an artifact, or does it reroll the accuracy?

I have Arkenstone (3), Ellesar (4), Nenya (2), Boots of Thror (3), RohanKnight Innate (12?) = 24 Speed - and I can Lightspeed jump and potion of speed to give me more speed.
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Old November 2, 2021, 15:19   #23
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My bad...Cubragol is of course not an option for the archer. But your list gives you speed > 20, so it should be doable.
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Dont you need like 35 base speed minimum in the nether realm?
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Kes, would you be able to post the char dump on oook so we see what's going? ��
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Do I keep the +20 Accuracy if I turn it into an artifact, or does it reroll the accuracy?
I'm 99%+ sure that it rerolls everything.
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Old November 3, 2021, 08:41   #27
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I dont recall reading artifact creation on rings. My assumption was based on the fact that a speed ring shop will only ever sell artifact rings based on speed rings.
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Dont you need like 35 base speed minimum in the nether realm?
In my experience there are two ways to survive in the Nether Realm: chain summoning or mass genocide. Speed is important, but much less so than having a way of avoiding getting mobbed.
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The few times I have done it were mostly with sorcerors (who had neither summoning nor geno); the main utility for survival is controlled phasing with portal creation. Now sorcerors are about at the speed cap; so maybe that second ring should be speed, after all. I dont recall if I used Flare much down there; is there anything that doesnt resist the swapping at those depths ?
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Kes, would you be able to post the char dump on oook so we see what's going? ��
http://angband.oook.cz/ladder-show.php?id=24728

This was before she died.

Last night, I read a summon never moving pet scroll to summon a Greater Draconic Q.

It chain summoned and we cleared the level.

Then I stepped onto an invisible trap (because there was a pet on top of it). The trap did me in one shot. I was so stunned I forgot to dump my char.

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