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Old March 2, 2011, 05:05   #21
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I'm pretty sure S/O also use attenuated breath damage.
Yes, as does FA.
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Old March 2, 2011, 07:07   #22
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I think you are also less likely to end up in an instadeath situation when you go downstairs/recall/tele-level in S.

While I have occasionally gone down stairs and found myself in LOS of a monster, I have never come down in the middle of a pack of hounds, for example.
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Old March 2, 2011, 17:10   #23
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I think you are also less likely to end up in an instadeath situation when you go downstairs/recall/tele-level in S.

While I have occasionally gone down stairs and found myself in LOS of a monster, I have never come down in the middle of a pack of hounds, for example.
I think a number of variants, S included (NPP? O?) try very hard to tuck stairs away in halls to help with this.
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Isn't that tied to 4GAI? Since monsters are in general more deadly with the advanced AI, appearing in a room surrounded by them is in turn more unfair in games with 4GAI than those without.
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Isn't that tied to 4GAI? Since monsters are in general more deadly with the advanced AI, appearing in a room surrounded by them is in turn more unfair in games with 4GAI than those without.
I'm not sure, but I'm pretty sure I've heard nppangband mention it for the epynomous variant, and it seems familiar from O.
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Isn't that tied to 4GAI? Since monsters are in general more deadly with the advanced AI, appearing in a room surrounded by them is in turn more unfair in games with 4GAI than those without.
I'm pretty sure that is the reason. Appearing in a room with pack of gravity hounds or similar in 4GAI that would mean that all of them would use the deadliest weapon they have as first move against you.
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all of them would use the deadliest weapon they have as first move against you.
Not as a first move, but when they got a roll for ranged attack. Not every monster uses ranged attack every turn, in fact only few monsters do this, in O, FA, S, a bit more in NPP.
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My last instadeath was around dlevel 60 and ~350hp. A player ghost existed a wall and brain smashed me twice before I had a chance to react.

Detect monster doesn't catch ghosts But at that depth with those HP, I shouldn't be surprised.
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My last instadeath was around dlevel 60 and ~350hp. A player ghost existed a wall and brain smashed me twice before I had a chance to react.
You gave the ghosts the old Wand of Wall Building from Moria? You are cruel.

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Old March 4, 2011, 10:24   #30
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I have a hunch he meant to wrote "exited," and was simply referring to a wallwalking player ghost... Sangband, I would guess -- or does some other variant also have brainsmashing damage of that caliber?
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