So I guess rogues really are easier

sffp · April 23, 2020, 20:33

So I just finished playing (dying) a human warrior who managed to get semi-instadeathed by a mystic down at around 1250
"It summons monsters - you're confused - the 7-headed hydra breaths fire - you die"

It never found an artifiact. Saqara's biggest problem that it had one damage that did better (not great) damage and another one that provided SI/ESP/FA

So I decide to try my first rogue. Grab some cure lights and phase doors
Head into the dungeon. I have literally 4 XP and what do I find

"you see the Dagger 'Narthanc' (1d4) (+9,+12) [+10] (??)"

It literally does more damage than any weapon my warrior ever found.

Resists Fire too...

DavidMedley · April 24, 2020, 01:28

Yeah, early Narthanc will make any class look good.

DavidMedley · April 24, 2020, 01:30

But I guess rogue is the best possible fit, with their 2.0 lb min effective weight.

Monkey Face · April 24, 2020, 20:08

Mages love 'thancs too both from the light weight and the savings in spell points they can help provide.

moosferatu · April 25, 2020, 02:35

Ha! After losing a ~CL25 paladin to an ancient dragon that I was curious to see how good a *slays* dragons powerfully weapon was against, I just started up a ranger who found on DL1 both Narthanc and Nimthanc (would have been nicer to have found a nice bow or some armor instead of one of them...)! This must be the week they're handing them out on DL1

archolewa · April 25, 2020, 04:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by moosferatu

Ha! After losing a ~CL25 paladin to an ancient dragon that I was curious to see how good a *slays* dragons powerfully weapon was against, I just started up a ranger who found on DL1 both Narthanc and Nimthanc (would have been nicer to have found a nice bow or some armor instead of one of them...)! This must be the week they're handing them out on DL1

On my second warrior win, the first piece of loot I found was the cloak that gives you all the base resists *and* lets you invoke it to get all the base resists temporarily (don't remember the name). I didn't even know this cloak existed, so you can imagine what my eyes looked like it when I saw it.

The second piece of loot was Narthanc, and they were both in the same room.

Needless to say, that game was probably the closest you can get to cruising to victory in Angband.

moosferatu · April 25, 2020, 12:18

Wow, I want that cloak!

Nick · April 25, 2020, 13:02

Colluin

fph · April 25, 2020, 13:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by archolewa

the cloak that gives you all the base resists *and* lets you invoke it to get all the base resists temporarily (don't remember the name).

Colluin. Very handy, especially for a class that has no access to temporary resistances.

Pete Mack · April 25, 2020, 18:18

@fph--
Which is "all classes except mage" in v4.2

April 23, 2020, 20:33	#1
sffp Swordsman Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: DC Area Posts: 434	So I guess rogues really are easier So I just finished playing (dying) a human warrior who managed to get semi-instadeathed by a mystic down at around 1250 "It summons monsters - you're confused - the 7-headed hydra breaths fire - you die" It never found an artifiact. Saqara's biggest problem that it had one damage that did better (not great) damage and another one that provided SI/ESP/FA So I decide to try my first rogue. Grab some cure lights and phase doors Head into the dungeon. I have literally 4 XP and what do I find "you see the Dagger 'Narthanc' (1d4) (+9,+12) [+10] (??)" It literally does more damage than any weapon my warrior ever found. Resists Fire too...

April 25, 2020, 13:02	#8
Nick Vanilla maintainer Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Canberra, Australia Age: 58 Posts: 9,527 Donated: $60	Colluin __________________ One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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DavidMedley Veteran Join Date: Oct 2019 Posts: 1,004	Yeah, early Narthanc will make any class look good.

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