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Old October 7, 2016, 18:34   #1
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Testing testing!

Thought I posted last nite, but I think it was lost in the ether.
If it is simply waiting for approval I apologize for the double post!
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Old October 7, 2016, 18:50   #2
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I've been reading this forum for the last month and I want to thank everyone here....this place is a great resource!

A little background:

I first played Nethack and Moria back in the early to mid 80's.
Never beat them and probably didn't get much past midgame.

Have been wanting to get back into RL's I heard that Angband was a decendant of Moria so I d/l'd it about a month ago.

On my 8th character or so now and have made it to clvl 37. Most earlier attempts died around clvl 29-30 so with some help from the RNG I am doing fairly well.

Posted a dump over on the ladder:

http://angband.oook.cz/ladder-show.php?id=19675

Been using the name Mudd from my early gaming days - sorry I see some others using the name Mudd on the ladder.

Anyway- any advise especially concerning inventory and item management is welcome. Having a hard time deciding what to keep and throw lately. Been using a robe of Permanence and not sure if I should be. Hard to resist the sustains tho.

Had a couple of encounters I decided to run away from with way OOD uniques lately - Balrog of Moria...a couple of Ringwraithes...and some crazy Dragon I don't recall. All of these happened at 1700-2000 feet.
Not sure how folks manage to dive fast. Must be a lot of running down there<grin>.

Spent a lot of time trying to uncurse helm of Gorlim after putting it on blind. That was how I learned there were still Cursed items in the game.
Then I found Calris which I have uncursed and stored at home. Buffed it up to usuable, but my current weapon is where I get FA so I haven't tried to use it yet. Don't like aggravation much after Gorlim either- lol.

Anyway, thanks again for this forum and I welcome all feedback on strategy going forward with this High Elf Rogue.
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Old October 7, 2016, 19:19   #3
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Your character is very strong. My one suggestion is Himring for rPois before you go deeper. A robe is perfect for a swap item. Starting near your depth, drolems can do 700+ unresisted poison damage. As you go deeper, there will be more such monsters.
And you need to go deeper. At 2000', you can't get more than around 2500exp for an in-depth monster. For a high-elf especially, you need a lot more than that.
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Old October 7, 2016, 19:35   #4
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Old October 7, 2016, 21:45   #5
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Thank's Pete!

When I first got Himring I didn't have rbase covered elsewhere so I stored it thinking it might be useful later. I take it the sustains are not as important as rpoison, but man I hate losing levels... 8^)

Would you stick with the KOW for now as a a main weapon? To switch to Calris I could either switch my boots of speed to the boots of free action or switch the gauntlets of agility to alchemists gloves of free action.
As I don't want to lose speed and the extra dex from the gauntlets of agility is wasted now, I am considering changing gauntlets. Those gloves of Power helped out bigtime early, but I don't think they make sense with current items.

Thanks again for the welcome!
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Old October 7, 2016, 23:44   #6
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Welcome!

With that character, I would use gauntlets of free action + Careth Asdriag. No aggravation, especially not on a rogue, and gloves give a substantial mana penalty unless they have FA, a dex bonus or are made of gossamer.

As Pete mentioned, Himring for poison resistance. Gorlim is an item to keep for the last fight, where aggravation and curses dont matter anymore, though chances are that you will prefer Dor Lomin still when you get there.

As you go deeper, you will have to make a habit of not engaging everything in combat; the hard part is learning which monsters to fight and which to avoid. There is a plethora of nasty, unpleasant and deadly things down there which probably get you dead soon, but avoiding them by staying on the upper levels is no solution. So good luck
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No. Boots of speed are not worth giving up, and aggravation is bad news. Again, it might br worth carrying as a swap once you get a little deeper. (By level 65, dragons have a lot more HP.)

You will need MB3 soon, since invisible, no-ESP monsters start getting much worse.

And like I said, the robe only weighs 2lbs. Carry it if you think you need it. But only as a backup. The resistances on Himring are much more important

Edit: Didn't see the gloves of FA in storage. Estie is right: Use them instead of agility. You have more than enough DEX. And Careth Asdraig is your best walkihg-around weapon, with Calris saved for big fights. You can use archery too. That's an endgame bow.

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Old October 8, 2016, 00:08   #8
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Okay!

Looks like a change of tactics on my next trip into town.
HimRing, Gauntlets of Free Action and Careth Asdriag it is!


What is MB3 you mentioned I will need soon?

Thanks again. As Este said, the hard part is learning what not to fight at this point. I ran from the Balrog, one of the Ringwraiths, and the Mouth of Sauron so far, but took out Kavlax, Sacha, and a few others that weren't pushovers.

I'm in new territory going beyond 2000' so the learning process will likely kill me soon<grin>.
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Old October 8, 2016, 00:26   #9
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What is MB3 you mentioned I will need soon?
Mage book three - i.e. the third of the red spellbooks, "Incantations and Illusions". It has some pretty useful spells like Identify, Stone to Mud and Reveal Monsters.
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Okay!

Looks like a change of tactics on my next trip into town.
HimRing, Gauntlets of Free Action and Careth Asdriag it is!


What is MB3 you mentioned I will need soon?

Thanks again. As Este said, the hard part is learning what not to fight at this point. I ran from the Balrog, one of the Ringwraiths, and the Mouth of Sauron so far, but took out Kavlax, Sacha, and a few others that weren't pushovers.

I'm in new territory going beyond 2000' so the learning process will likely kill me soon<grin>.
The low-level Ringwraiths are pretty easy to kill-in fact all of them are relatively easy. Undead have fairly low HP (with a few exceptions), and they have no breath attack (with one exception.)
Use archery if you don't have hold life. (And killing undead is one place where a swap makes sense.)

At your level, the most dangerous uniques are Gorlim and Kavlax
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