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Old November 9, 2019, 18:35   #31
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I'm giving this a shot. Haven't played any variants in quite some time. This is... a bit overwhelming. In a good way.

Playing a ranger. Get called a brute for attacking something in the dungeon. Back off, but it comes after me... I kill it. Now I'm out of touch with nature?

Is there an easy way to know what to leave alone? Or is it just a judgement call or trial and error?
My problem with Virtues in a Dungeon Crawl is that they force a certain playstyle and completely fail to tell you what it is. MITZE's listings have helped a ton.
Still though, Stealth or Ranged attacks let a character get in the first strike, and the game punishes you for it. I gave up trying to play a ranger when the typical dungeon playstyle rendered Magic essentially too unreliable as i rapidly Lost touch with nature to the point fail rate went through the roof.
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Old November 11, 2019, 03:04   #32
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Well, I found it a bit confusing. I killed a few things just by holding a direction key too long, or not realizing I was supposed to avoid them in the first place. Couldn't figure out how to get back on the path once I strayed.

Really impressed overall, though! Variants have come a long way while I wasn't looking.
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Old November 11, 2019, 03:33   #33
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Really impressed overall, though! Variants have come a long way while I wasn't looking.
Take a peek at ToME (now Tales of Maj'Eyal, once upon a time Troubles of Middle Earth) Almost no longer a roguelike.

Wiki: ToME

Let's Plaay: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnXMafW_QOE
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Old November 11, 2019, 04:58   #34
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PCB 7.1.1 does not have an Global Wilderness Map. You would have to memorize the exact # of screens to backtrack to the towns.
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Take a peek at ToME (now Tales of Maj'Eyal, once upon a time Troubles of Middle Earth) Almost no longer a roguelike.

Wiki: ToME

Let's Plaay: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnXMafW_QOE
I have played that a bit. I remember when it used. To be pernangband. Haven't played it in a while, though.
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I'm giving this a shot. Haven't played any variants in quite some time. This is... a bit overwhelming. In a good way.

Playing a ranger. Get called a brute for attacking something in the dungeon. Back off, but it comes after me... I kill it. Now I'm out of touch with nature?

Is there an easy way to know what to leave alone? Or is it just a judgement call or trial and error?
You shouldn't attack "Natural" type of monsters before they are angry at you. In general this means, don't attack them while they are sleeping.

As far as I'm aware, it doesn't do any harm killing hostile monsters of the Natural type. (if you target a monster and push 'r' (recall), you'll get the info you know about a monster)
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