Does not resist...

[NightLizard]

Let me start by saying that I really really appreciate how the monster display has improved with showing average damage, relative speed, to-hit percentages and colourization. It really makes it so much easier to analyze monsters!

There's one thing that still bothers me though. Why is it that we display what a monster doesn't resist? I mean, obviously that is just the rest of the elements, a monster either resist or does not resist an element. Also, it is so close to the list of what it resists *and* it is in the same colour! It often makes me read it over and over again to make sure I got it right.

My suggestion is to remove the "does not resist"-list (this would also make the monster display shorter) or at the very least show the "does not resist" elements in a different colour.

What do you say?

[Mondkalb]

The "does not resist" part is important information if you don't (yet) have full knowledge of the monster to plan your attacks.

[NightLizard]

Ah... of course, I didn't think of that since I play with full monster memory. But it is still reasonable to show it in a different colour then?

Edit:
hm... maybe this is more variant teritorry, but just brainstorming a bit here. What if the monster display was something more like the player C-screen, where an unknown element would be a question mark, and then + and - for resists and weakness? I think that would be much more readable.

[Derakon]

Originally Posted by NightLizard

Ah... of course, I didn't think of that since I play with full monster memory. But it is still reasonable to show it in a different colour then?

Edit:
hm... maybe this is more variant teritorry, but just brainstorming a bit here. What if the monster display was something more like the player C-screen, where an unknown element would be a question mark, and then + and - for resists and weakness? I think that would be much more readable.

There have been various proposals to make a "monster memory grid" that displays information in a more visual way instead of as a big paragraph of data. I don't remember any of the proposals making it past the mock-up phase though. You're more than welcome to make an attempt yourself.

[wobbly]

Originally Posted by Derakon

There have been various proposals to make a "monster memory grid" that displays information in a more visual way instead of as a big paragraph of data. I don't remember any of the proposals making it past the mock-up phase though. You're more than welcome to make an attempt yourself.

There's always this way from PCB & its forks:

http://angband.oook.cz/screen-show.php?id=4630

[Derakon]

Originally Posted by wobbly

There's always this way from PCB & its forks:

http://angband.oook.cz/screen-show.php?id=4630

Aha, I guess it does get substantially easier if you don't constrain yourself to fitting in an 80x24 grid!

[NightLizard]

Ah yeah, I've seen that and I would love for that to be in vanilla! But how do these variants handle "unknown" resists then? Maybe not at all?

[wobbly]

It doesn't. Just the vulnerabilities. I like the does not resist bit. I don't play with full monster memory & it's nice to know that I've tried something and it works.