Blackguard first impressions and missing docs

[Tom Warner]

Originally Posted by Selkie

Keep on ploughing through. Things get really interesting once bloodlust kicks in! I love that spell

I really wish I'd paid more attention to the stats I'd need for the character...Blackguard sounded combat-focused so I dumped all my points into STR/DEX/CON. The dungeon is a rough place at 6 intelligence, I'm excited to either get deep enough to find INT potions or die trying and re-roll for someone a little less stupid

[Nick]

Originally Posted by Tom Warner

Interesting thank you! I'm running Linux and didn't feel like compiling from source so I grabbed a 4.2.1 that someone had made into a .deb -- is there any plan to update the versions in the official Apt repo (3.5 currently iirc) or otherwise make a Linux release that doesn't require compiling from source? I can do it if I have to, but I'm very lazy and haven't written much C and compiling it is always a huge pain.

My understanding is that you have to have someone who is officially approved in some sense to contribute to the official Apt repo. Magnate (who still appears here occasionally) has done this in the past, but there isn't really anyone regularly doing it now.

I should really point you at angband.live, too, in case playing in a web browser would suit you.

[Tom Warner]

I did not know it was even available in-browser--thank you! 4.2.1 has been working fine on plain Ubuntu so far, I'll see what I can do with 4.2.2 later tonight if I get the chance.

[Tom Warner]

Just managed to kill Orfax and Boldor which is always a nice little milestone -- Terrified Yeeks really add a whole new dimension to anti-yeek combat!

[Tom Warner]

I do really like that devices get their damage % bonus from your device skill listed in the item descriptions -- always good when the game is more transparent about how much damage your gear can actually do

[Pete Mack]

Best match for BG is likely Dunadan. You get plenty of HP and STR anyway. What you're missing is DEX, which really matters a lot with the 10lb weapon penanlty, well into the midgame. And decent INT helps too. H-T has one big benefit: Regen, which will help a bit with BG's weird HP mechanic, but won't do a thing for SP. That said, I haven't remotely figured out this class.

Specific details about the workings of HP and SP regen from melee would really help.

[Tom Warner]

Originally Posted by Pete Mack

H-T has one big benefit: Regen, which will help a bit with BG's weird HP mechanic, but won't do a thing for SP.

The regen has been really nice I think -- mostly haven't struggled with missing HP and while I go through potions at a decent rate, I've generally been able to replenish them just from what I find lying around.

The INT thing is brutal though. I've managed to find a cap of +2 int which is a huge help (raises it all the way to 8) but all my rituals are still at 50% fail and I have 12 SP at CL 23. I've honestly had to mostly play so far like a warrior with a couple utility spells, and so I don't feel like I'm really getting the intended experience out of the class until I reach stat gain depth or die trying. Live and learn though.

[archolewa]

I compile from source and it really isnt a pain. If youve already installed angband from apt-get then you should have all the dependencies, so compiling should just be a few commands away.

[Tom Warner]

Originally Posted by archolewa

I compile from source and it really isnt a pain. If youve already installed angband from apt-get then you should have all the dependencies, so compiling should just be a few commands away.

......apparently my Ubuntu install (latest vanilla version) does not have a C compiler installed, and trying to install GCC fails on some other bogus dependency error. I appreciate that this is a free game and all, this is a very first-world problem, but it really is kind of a stretch to expect people to compile it from source code as a "normal" part of the install process, especially when you don't know what dependencies may or may not be installed on their systems.

Ideally it would be available through apt but I get there may be access issues there, still, it would be very nice to be available either through a PPA or at least as a pre-built .deb package, like 4.2.1 was built here.

[Sphara]

Short starting tips for Blackguard:

Pick High-Elf race. Take two points off from CON and one point from DEX. Put all points to INT. Now you have 18/20 STR, 18/10 INT, 18/10 DEX, 13 CON.

Prefer heavier weapons at the start. Dungeon upgrades come up eventually.

Find Ring of Open Wounds. Activate it often for healing.

Buy Fear and Torment book as soon as you can afford it and are able cast Maim Foe spell. Use Maim Foe against everything nasty you decide to fight (does not work on undead afaik). It radically lowers melee damage taken by enemy hits.